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Post by shaggy33 on Oct 3, 2013 18:19:05 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if I have the right rack or worm gear because when I offer up the two outside the sleeve (Ie teeth fully meshed) and look at angle of the spline it doesn't seem to be quite the right alignment for the plug hole it goes in...if that makes sense That's probably me imagining that to be fair
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Post by Paul (madeye) on Oct 3, 2013 18:28:29 GMT
have you deffo got the right worm for the right rack, not mixed them up??
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Post by shaggy33 on Oct 3, 2013 18:32:52 GMT
That's a good question but yes deffo correct because the old rack was and still is covered in grease and the worm cog is with it also covered in white grease!
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Post by shaggy33 on Oct 3, 2013 18:35:16 GMT
It just won't bloody go in....oooer. Interestingly when I was trying to pull it out when I thought I had pushed it too far I was turning the cv joint using a long metal rod and the worm gear kind of popped out as if it the turning motion had forced the gears away from each other. That made me think whether mesh was correct also
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Post by kiwicanfly on Oct 3, 2013 18:50:13 GMT
It's a while since I did mine but it went together real easy as it should.
Try checking the gear slips into the housing without the rack - should fit and turn easy.
Then check the gear rolls along the rack with the rack out of the housing, clean any grease off it and do it slowly - again should roll along nicely without trying to ride up on the teeth.
After that I am at a loss.
At least you should be able to see any error, dammed electrical stuff, I can't see where I have put my bag of sparks anywhere but I appear to have lost them!
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Post by shaggy33 on Oct 3, 2013 19:29:02 GMT
Yes I read about your lack of spark and hope you solve it soon. I know even less about electrics than I do steering racks... Right here's the score. Worm gear on its own drops in lovely as it should. Rack rod on its own nice and free running. Both together? I can get the work in with force so there is about 2 threads showing for the slipper plug abut that's it, and even then the rack seems locked up. I think my attempt to force the worm in simply jammed the fears together and siezed but luckily I don't appear to have damaged anything. I guess I could put pics up of items in case they look obviously different?
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Post by Paul (madeye) on Oct 3, 2013 19:39:32 GMT
if you have the rack out on the bench, does the pinion seat correctly and roll all the way across the gear on the rack?? post a pic
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Post by shaggy33 on Oct 3, 2013 20:02:01 GMT
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Post by Paul (madeye) on Oct 3, 2013 20:04:43 GMT
can you lay the pinion on the rack with the gears meshed??
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Post by shaggy33 on Oct 3, 2013 20:10:53 GMT
sorry yes meant to say I can roll the pinion all the way along the rack. When the pinion is in as far as it can go without force (see pic) I can turn it and it will move the rack quite smoothly
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Post by Paul (madeye) on Oct 3, 2013 20:19:40 GMT
but at what angle is the pinion? is it perpendicular to it, and looks like its at the right angle to work..
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Post by shaggy33 on Oct 3, 2013 20:30:34 GMT
Funny you should say that, no it bloomin isn't, see pic. Never really occurred to me but now I look at it I can see why it might be an issue lining up when assembled in the sleeve. Wrong parts???
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Post by shaggy33 on Oct 3, 2013 20:33:59 GMT
just looking at the opening where the worm sits and it is at an angle but not sure its that extreme when comparing the angle of worm when sitting on rack
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Post by kiwicanfly on Oct 3, 2013 20:57:53 GMT
Lay the two sets side by side and see if the pinion is at the same angle on both.
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Post by shaggy33 on Oct 3, 2013 21:21:52 GMT
Good call kiwicanfly. Just checked and yes they seem to sit at same angle although when I try to put normal rack back in I have Sam problem trying to get that one to seat properly which leads me to think i am getting angle wrong or something. It's almost ridiculous now that such a simple thing is causing an issue!
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