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Post by boileralum on Jul 27, 2015 19:59:57 GMT
Bringing this back up, since I put down my deposit today and officially have skin in the game. I am going to pick back up where I left off on my proposal letter and gather the data I think we will need to get it classed. I'll be sure to update the thread once I hear back from Dave.
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Post by BTD on Jul 27, 2015 20:31:18 GMT
Rich,
Let me know if you want help or need me to write a letter. I'd love to have a DM classing instead of AM.
Dan
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Post by boileralum on Jul 27, 2015 20:55:22 GMT
Thanks Dan! I will probably post my letter here for additional comments/ critique before I send it in, and if others want to send in letters of support at the same time, that would be great!
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Post by jwagner on Jul 27, 2015 23:20:12 GMT
Been thinking about this for a while and I'd pitch in too.
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Post by BTD on Oct 2, 2015 20:43:39 GMT
I wanted to update this - I submitted a letter to the SEB for the Exocet to be classed in DM/EM under the kit car exclusion yesterday. I did not include specific measurements, but I offered I disagreeistance in obtaining any that they need. I would encourage all other members to do the same, having a large number of letters showing support can go a long way towards making the change happen! www.crbscca.com/ |
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Post by boileralum on Oct 3, 2015 0:13:54 GMT
Here is my latest draft, if anyone wants to critique it: Hello, I would like to propose that we change the last part of section 18.1.A.1 be modified as follows "... The list of currently approved models is as follows: Factory Five Racing 818 (S & R) Exomotive Exocet (Base, Sport & Race. The exoskeleton frame/body must be no narrower or shorter than those originally produced by Exomotive, Inc. Additionally, the wheelbase and track must be no smaller than those dimensions from a 1990-2005 miata, which are ~89" wheelbase and 55" front/ 56" rear track width. No wings front or rear.)" As you may or may not already know, this kit car is designed around the 90-05 Mazda Miata, and is essentially a body/ tub swap for that car, as it bolts on to the original front & rear subframes, powerplant frame (PPF) and original suspension. This results in idential wheelbase and track from the donor vehicle. The US manufacturer's website is www.exomotive.com/exocet. The kit includes bodywork, and although the manufacturer was slow to get going on the production of the body panels due to some QA issues, the body work is now rolling out at a similar pace to the chassis production and shipping with them. There are several members on mevowners.proboards.com/board/20/exocet who have documented their builds, and have pictures including the finished body work, as well as documentation regarding having their cars registered for use on public roads. Nearly 150 kits have been delivered in the US, and the original MEV design (same dimensions as the US version, but re-engineered in the US for quality and repeatable manufacturability) has sold over 300 in the UK. I think that classing the car with the caveats that 'the exoskeleton frame/body must be no narrower or shorter than those originally produced by Exomotive, Inc. Additionally, the wheelbase and track must be no smaller than those dimensions from a 1990-2005 miata, which are ~89" wheelbase and 55" front/ 56" rear track width' should help eliminate any concerns that smaller scale clones would be created that would give an unfair advantage compared to other cars built for the class. The Factory Five Racing 818 kit, which uses some, but a far lower percentage of, parts from the Subaru WRX has already been classified to run in DM/ EM classes, and I feel that the Exocet is a similar performance and construction vehicle that is proving to be very popular in the US (and is already extremely popular in the UK, where there are dedicated race series based on just this car). The car follows the guidelines set in section 18.1.A.1, so there should not be a concern there, and I do not see any advantage that would be provided by this car over any other car, especially the 818, which is one of the main competitors in the marketplace. Respectfully, Rich Hughes SCCA Member #451550 |
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Post by BTD on Oct 3, 2015 2:40:48 GMT
Why the stipulation for no wings? IMO they should be allowed, just like they are for other mod cars.
My letter:
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Post by boileralum on Oct 3, 2015 3:25:33 GMT
DM & EM aren't allowed to run wings, only spoilers.
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Post by boileralum on Oct 3, 2015 3:30:05 GMT
Read 18.1.F for the aero allowances for DM/WM.
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Post by jwagner on Oct 5, 2015 18:17:18 GMT
Letter ID Number: #17909 Title: Request to class Exomotive Exocet Class: DM Request: Dear SEB, I would like to propose that the Exomotive Exocet kit car be added to Section 18.1.A.1 of the Solo Modified Category rules. It would probably be wise to add the caveat that the wheelbase and track of the car should not be any less than a stock 1990 to 2005 Miata (89" minimum wheelbase, front track 55.5" minimum, rear track 56" minimum). Background information The Exocet is a kit car produced in the US since 2011 by Exomotive 1154 Oakleigh Drive Atlanta, GA 30344 404) 919-1396 info@exomotive.com exomotive.com/exocet/The Exocet is an exoskeleton framed car based on a 1990-2005 Mazda Miata. Most of the Miata is re-used in the Exocet - front and rear suspension including subframes, PPF frame, Miata drive train, and a host of other parts - for more details see exomotive.com/exocet/what-you-need/This four minute youtube video of a build demonstration is a bit kitschy but gives a sense of what is re-used in the build and the build process: To date Exomotive has sold about 170 chassis. Many of these cars are autocrossed and they should have an appropriate class. Thanks for your consideration, Jim |
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Post by boileralum on Oct 5, 2015 18:26:32 GMT
Haha Jim, you just beat me, I submitted letter 17910 with an edited version of what I posted above.
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Post by boileralum on Nov 5, 2015 21:52:10 GMT
The current status of my letter is that it is on the Modified Advisory Committee (MAC) agenda for their next meeting. That means that it made it past the initial review by the SEB without getting canned, so fingers crossed for continued approval.
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Post by BTD on Nov 5, 2015 21:57:19 GMT
Mine is the same status, which is great news that multiple letters made it through!
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Post by jwagner on Nov 6, 2015 4:00:48 GMT
"Your letter has been reviewed by the Modified Committee and sent to the Solo Events Board."
Letter: #17909
Edit: Letter 17914 received same status update.
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Post by BTD on Nov 6, 2015 6:28:58 GMT
^ Just got the email today as well. Great timing. Letter #17892
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