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Post by Stiggy on Apr 2, 2015 16:11:13 GMT
Just a note, you will need a permanently secured rear view mirror on the dash, seat belts need an E, side lights/front markers need to be within 400mm of the edge of the wings, if you use the DRL's as positioned they are too far in, maybe the ones under the headlights are ind/side.
Rear reflectors need to be within 400mm of the edge of the wings too, not sure what lights they are on the rear but maybe they have a reflector inside, in that case better remove the others.
FOG needs E marking with B or F.
Check headlight beam pattern is flat.
Mesh open area is 67% so no heat worries.
Good looking car, good luck with the test.
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Post by trident on Apr 2, 2015 19:33:20 GMT
Just a note, you will need a permanently secured rear view mirror on the dash, seat belts need an E, side lights/front markers need to be within 400mm of the edge of the wings, if you use the DRL's as positioned they are too far in, maybe the ones under the headlights are ind/side. Rear reflectors need to be within 400mm of the edge of the wings too, not sure what lights they are on the rear but maybe they have a reflector inside, in that case better remove the others. FOG needs E marking with B or F. Check headlight beam pattern is flat. Mesh open area is 67% so no heat worries. Good looking car, good luck with the test. Stuart cheers for the info, much appreciated otherwise I would have failed on at least one point. From what you mentioned above the only thing I had not considered was the side light distance from outside. The indicators under the headlights were just that, indicators…. but are now due to be replaced with dual indicator and side light switchback LEDs. Hopefully that should sort out that issue with the side light distance. The rear lights are all iva compliant and are just above the 350mm min heigh above of the floor. They do have reflectors in the centre. You mentioned removing the others. I presume you mean the one on the tank cover? Is it possible to have to many then? |
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Post by Stiggy on Apr 2, 2015 20:53:51 GMT
The inspector could fail non compliant lights/reflectors even if you have compliant ones. I would remove the extras to be safe. Check flash speed to ensure your LED's load the electronic flasher correctly.
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Post by trident on Apr 13, 2015 12:30:31 GMT
UK Builders If you're thinking of putting in for your IVA test soon then I would submit your paperwork ASAP as there is a large back log. I've just phoned DVLA as I put in my papers end of March Which they received on 30th March. I even had an e-mail the next day to say it had been accepted HOWEVER they are currently only processing paperwork form the 9th March…. The lady advised me it would be a least another couple of weeks until they can process mine before they can release it to the local test station. You've then got to wait for a test slot at the local IVA station. Cant see me being on the road before June now !!! Definitely won't have my car at Stoneleigh.   I have adjusted my front light set up now though so my side lights are with in 400mm from outside edge. the original ones will now act as the optional ones. |
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Post by Stiggy on Apr 13, 2015 14:11:45 GMT
I would imagine that optional side lights also need to comply. Sorry to hear that there are delays, it happens every year in the spring
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Post by trident on Apr 13, 2015 19:27:41 GMT
I would imagine that optional side lights also need to comply. Sorry to hear that there are delays, it happens every year in the spring Along with jgilbert who also has his optional ones amount at the same point we believe we should be ok even if we do have to quote from the manual…. but thats what it's for. This is the rationale behind what we think is correct from our understanding of the manual. Credit should go to John on this one. It makes it a lot easier to understand what is written below if you can also refer to the manual at the same time. www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/354071/M1_IVA_inspection_manual.pdfOk, here we go and remember we are talking about the optional side lights that are fitted vertically in the video above. **************************************************************************************** If fitted as DRL then Fail due to the 400mm requirement Table 1 section 22 page 5 of 6. If fitted as 'Optional' front point lamps' i.e come on with your side lights then you should be OK. Rationale for being OK, Same table page 4 of 5 states you must have Min of 2 Front Position Lamps (FPL) and a max of 4. So 2 are 'Optional'. Note 7 that applies to the number of FPL clearly states (section 22 page 2 of 6) Note 7 : Geometric angles of visibility and positional requirements are NOT required for all OPTIONAL position lamps..... Furthermore, on page 1 of 6 section 22, first note under method of inspection clearly states With Optional lamps check that the fitment is permitted (answer Yes as your allowed 4) and they do not exceed the maximum number (answer No as your allowed 4).... This is an IMPORTANT point because it separates the inspection method of these lamps from all other lamps ie the mandatory ones that are covered in the same paragraph that need to meet the correct positioning requirements. Therefore providing one set of FPL (the mandatory ones) are with the 400mm requirements the Optional ones can be mounted wherever  you PASS Rationale for FAIL, I think is is very unlikely but an inspector could point to Figure 1 section 20, page 4 of 8 and quote "Each lamp and reflector must be positioned to met the angles of visibility shown. I don't think the 'optional' ones would. If this was the case I would quote the paragraph on page 1 section 22 (Method of inspection) and argue that Optional lamps are not covered (Note 7). I also think the above rationale works with the rear reflectors on the tank cover. As long at the car has a min of 2 fitted then there is no max number. Table 1, Section 21 Retro Reflectors |
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Post by mawdo81 on Apr 13, 2015 20:57:36 GMT
I can't see the video ar the moment but remember re lamps that if, I think 60% of the area of a rectangle surrounding more than one light is the surface of the lights then they count as a single light and are subject as such to the rules. Hope that makes sense. I'll look for the reference tomorrow.
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Post by Stiggy on Apr 14, 2015 10:13:37 GMT
I would imagine that optional side lights also need to comply. Sorry to hear that there are delays, it happens every year in the spring Along with jgilbert who also has his optional ones amount at the same point we believe we should be ok even if we do have to quote from the manual…. but thats what it's for. This is the rationale behind what we think is correct from our understanding of the manual. Credit should go to John on this one. It makes it a lot easier to understand what is written below if you can also refer to the manual at the same time. www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/354071/M1_IVA_inspection_manual.pdfOk, here we go and remember we are talking about the optional side lights that are fitted vertically in the video above. **************************************************************************************** If fitted as DRL then Fail due to the 400mm requirement Table 1 section 22 page 5 of 6. If fitted as 'Optional' front point lamps' i.e come on with your side lights then you should be OK. Rationale for being OK, Same table page 4 of 5 states you must have Min of 2 Front Position Lamps (FPL) and a max of 4. So 2 are 'Optional'. Note 7 that applies to the number of FPL clearly states (section 22 page 2 of 6) Note 7 : Geometric angles of visibility and positional requirements are NOT required for all OPTIONAL position lamps..... Furthermore, on page 1 of 6 section 22, first note under method of inspection clearly states With Optional lamps check that the fitment is permitted (answer Yes as your allowed 4) and they do not exceed the maximum number (answer No as your allowed 4).... This is an IMPORTANT point because it separates the inspection method of these lamps from all other lamps ie the mandatory ones that are covered in the same paragraph that need to meet the correct positioning requirements. Therefore providing one set of FPL (the mandatory ones) are with the 400mm requirements the Optional ones can be mounted wherever you PASS Rationale for FAIL, I think is is very unlikely but an inspector could point to Figure 1 section 20, page 4 of 8 and quote "Each lamp and reflector must be positioned to met the angles of visibility shown. I don't think the 'optional' ones would. If this was the case I would quote the paragraph on page 1 section 22 (Method of inspection) and argue that Optional lamps are not covered (Note 7). I also think the above rationale works with the rear reflectors on the tank cover. As long at the car has a min of 2 fitted then there is no max number. Table 1, Section 21 Retro Reflectors or you could consider making life easy for yourself and leave the extra ones off rather than getting a copy of the manual out at the test and showing the examiner he is wrong. |
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Post by mawdo81 on Apr 14, 2015 12:15:54 GMT
it was section 20 "Two or more lamps (see “A” and “B” in Figure 4), whether identical or
not, having the same function and emitting light of the same colour are
considered to be one lamp if the aggregate illuminated area of the lamps
occupies 60% or more of the area of the smallest rectangle
circumscribing those illuminated areas. "
Given they are strip lights at perpendicular angles you wouldn't fall foul of this.
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Post by trident on Apr 30, 2015 8:19:47 GMT
With less than a month away from iva I've been going over the car. Had to change over the rear off side brake calliper even though it was a refurbished calliper. The handbrake was sticking on sometimes as the calliper lever wasn't fully releasing. Found a good place to get replacement callipers on ebay and for £35 its a no brainer. If your going to replace your callipers then look at this company. They don't seem to have any more callipers on ebay at the moment but worth a phone call. stores.ebay.co.uk/J-R-CV-JOINTS-DRIVESHAFTSHandbrake works perfect now and it only took 10 minutes to swap them over. First time I fitted the callipers it took about an hour. Practice makes things a lot easier. Also changed the coolant as I had noticed that the top tank was now a very horrible rusty brown colour instead of the pale blue it was a couple of months ago. I've been flushing the system with clean water. On the 3rd Flush now and it's starting to look a bit better. A couple more and I'll re fill her with anti freeze.  Other jobs will have to wait until after Stoneleigh as I need to pick up the odd bit of edge trim etc. I'll be there Monday Hoping to see a few Exocets in the club area. Mine will defo be there next year. |
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Post by makoto on May 4, 2015 23:53:53 GMT
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Post by trident on May 5, 2015 8:07:27 GMT
Makoto
Yes, the seat holes were cut first and then I sat in the seat with the harness over my shoulders whilst my wife marked the hole position. I then re checked it with her sat in the car to see what it was like with a different person. Details are on page 5 of my build. Use a cone cutter as suggested by jgilbert to make the hole big enough for the crush tubes. I go the crush tubes from ebay. Do a search for 7/16 UNF threaded insert
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Post by makoto on May 14, 2015 13:53:13 GMT
Thanks for the info. Managed to get the harness so will install. I'm also interested in the headlights as mine failed on the Beam pattern. I take it they are IVA safe...? Can you give me the link of where you purchased it from please?
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Post by trident on May 15, 2015 14:50:26 GMT
Thanks for the info. Managed to get the harness so will install. I'm also interested in the headlights as mine failed on the Beam pattern. I take it they are IVA safe...? Can you give me the link of where you purchased it from please? Yes they are but only just. Very close as they are an American product and therefore designed for the wrong side of the road. I'm sure our Australian and NZ friends would agree with that….  There is a very slight kick up to the offside and then the pattern goes flat again. I was just able to get the beam pattern within the two lines when I had my iva test…. The all in one headlights that stuart has on the new Exocet are fully iva safe and have side lights and indicators in one unit. Talking of my iva test.. |
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Post by trident on May 15, 2015 15:17:25 GMT
Ok so from just looking at the whether forecast guess what day I had my iva test on.   So the test was yesterday and it was wet. So 8am and I was ready to go .  Test went very well. It was a fail but it was a very very good fail. They were impressed with the car and one of the examiners even mentioned that he really liked the exhaust but would it pass the test as it sounded loud? Checking the lights at the front of the car I could tell the examiner wasn't keen when I put my indicators on whilst my side lights were on as well as they switch back from indicator and side light as per my previous video. He also didn't like the fact that my optional side lights were marked on the lens as DRL ( daylight running lights). It wasn't so much the position of the optional side light but the fact they were actually designed to be DRL's and as such are designed to be brighter than side light and ass they were marked DRL they were not within 400mm of outside edge. If I had taken the DRL off the lens prior to the test might just have got through but it was not to be. Rest of the test went very well. Brakes, speedo, emissions all passed. The emissions test was carried out as non cat test so I was allowed 3.5 CO and 1200 on HC. My car 0.46 CO And 75 HC. The sound test was the bit I thought I would fail on but it passed that with 95 point something Db A. I was very pleased. The first time the Exocet was driven properly was in the rain. Again passed the steering self centring test. skid test to make sure the front wheels locked up first etc. the side panels helped keep the water out a little but it's not a car for driving in very heavy rain.  Couple of bits of edge trim needed on the top of the front shock mounts which I put on there and then. Car also failed on the interior hazards switch which actually sits 12mm proud of the surface. The fog switched passed as this fell in the safe zone behind the steering wheel. To be honest I'd not even thought about checking the switch height as I presumed they were 9.5mm as they are iva safe. They are only iva safe if flush mounted. Oh and the car weighed 720kg with out a driver. 795kg with diver So she failed on a few minor items but as they were very minor and less than 6 items it classed as a free re test within 5 days. So after the test I went home carried out the changes that the examiner and I had discussed and went back down to the test centre this afternoon. Examiner rechecked the chassis numbers. Checked the items I had changed and removed. He then went to write out the certificate. PASS  Now all I have to do now is work out how do I register it first time?
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