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Post by jason82 on Jan 19, 2019 16:06:18 GMT
hi, can someone clarify the regs for iva regarding covering up parts of the frame as I see some people have and some have not ? I have posted some pics bellow to show you the areas I mean. cheers If my understanding is correct, if the tester can get his 100mm ball into any area & touch an edge, it must have a 2.5mm radius. I got my wife to pick me up a 100mm diameter polystyrene ball from hobby craft. I have not used it yet, but that is my intention. Regarding your mirror question, I would get in touch with the iva technical email site & send them pics. I will dig the email address out for you & post it on your thread.
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Post by jason82 on Jan 19, 2019 16:07:59 GMT
approvals.technical@dvsa.gov.uk Best to get a definitive answer from them direct. I hope that this helps you !
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Post by p2tav on Jan 19, 2019 17:03:05 GMT
Not sure about the size, but have you seen the new 10kg rule ? Basically if the wing mirrors are the widest point of the car, a 10kg should fold them in. This was highlighted in this year's car builder solutions manual. I must say, I love your build, possibly one of the cleanest that I have seen. cheers Jason much appreciated they don't stick out as far as wheel wings but 10kg would fold them in I think lol. one of the g types failed iva on wheel wing indicators and he said you cant have another indicator on each side so not sure weather to wire them up ?? cheers
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Post by p2tav on Jan 19, 2019 17:09:48 GMT
hi, can someone clarify the regs for iva regarding covering up parts of the frame as I see some people have and some have not ? I have posted some pics bellow to show you the areas I mean. cheers If my understanding is correct, if the tester can get his 100mm ball into any area & touch an edge, it must have a 2.5mm radius. I got my wife to pick me up a 100mm diameter polystyrene ball from hobby craft. I have not used it yet, but that is my intention. Regarding your mirror question, I would get in touch with the iva technical email site & send them pics. I will dig the email address out for you & post it on your thread. I get you but how far do they push it in as we would have to cover all the engine bay framework up as if you push it far enough it will hit a radius less than 2.5mm and it will be a right pain to cover behind wheels cheers
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Post by Stiggy on Jan 19, 2019 17:24:47 GMT
Hi Paul, the inspector can insert his ball up to 200 mm in one direction only and not change direction. Anything it contacts unless in the exempt area around the steering wheel must have a min 2.5 rad. Alternatively a bar or panel can be added to stop the 100 mm dia ball getting in certain areas such as pedals. G-type indicators are IVA correct but I had to inform an inspector of his errors yesterday, he has now admitted he was incorrect in failing them as he had not allowed for 750 mm height. Below is the extract from the manual that the inspector has to adhere to.
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Post by p2tav on Jan 19, 2019 17:46:00 GMT
Hi Paul, the inspector can insert his ball up to 200 mm in one direction only and not change direction. Anything it contacts unless in the exempt area around the steering wheel must have a min 2.5 rad. Alternatively a bar or panel can be added to stop the 100 mm dia ball getting in certain areas such as pedals. G-type indicators are IVA correct but I had to inform an inspector of his errors yesterday, he has now admitted he was incorrect in failing them as he had not allowed for 750 mm height. Below is the extract from the manual that the inspector has to adhere to. cheers Stuart, so do I need to put a cover around brake master cylinder? as that area is a bit woolly??
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Post by Stiggy on Jan 27, 2019 13:11:16 GMT
never heard of that requirement but better to check with your 100mm ball to find out
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Post by jason82 on Jan 28, 2019 12:18:02 GMT
Hi Paul, after reading your post it got me thinking & I came up with this. B & Q sell some really nice mesh that can be fitted along the inside edge of that area. It's not expensive & is quite nice to look at. For roughly £10 you can do both sides & either pop rivet it on with a wide head pop rivet or something else. They do a really cool black coloured one which will look good on your car. I am doing this now, it may be fine without it, but it would be a real cow to have to loose time and money on an iva 're test for a piece of mesh.
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Post by jason82 on Jan 28, 2019 12:31:15 GMT
Regarding your indicators on the front wings, what are you going to do ? I bought mine from bike it thinking that they were iva acceptable ? do you think that we should fit something else & drop them into the wings after iva ?
I presumed that everything on the demonstrator car was iva acceptable ? This makes me wonder about the rear end around the exhaust area, if I remember correctly, I think the build thread was triton & he put dome kind of plastic box type thing around that area. Another builder fitted a frame around the area.
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Post by hammy3601 on Jan 29, 2019 14:14:20 GMT
Hi Paul, the inspector can insert his ball up to 200 mm in one direction only and not change direction. Anything it contacts unless in the exempt area around the steering wheel must have a min 2.5 rad. Alternatively a bar or panel can be added to stop the 100 mm dia ball getting in certain areas such as pedals. G-type indicators are IVA correct but I had to inform an inspector of his errors yesterday, he has now admitted he was incorrect in failing them as he had not allowed for 750 mm height. Below is the extract from the manual that the inspector has to adhere to. cheers Stuart, so do I need to put a cover around brake master cylinder? as that area is a bit woolly?? Hi Paul, looks like your going well, one of the lads has just been through IVA with his GType and he didnt mask the area by the M/cylinder. Also none of the other recently IVA'd cars did either. I'll be putting a temporary cover just to avoid the sphere in the pedal area. Hope that helps mate
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Post by p2tav on Jan 29, 2019 14:52:12 GMT
Hi Paul, after reading your post it got me thinking & I came up with this. B & Q sell some really nice mesh that can be fitted along the inside edge of that area. It's not expensive & is quite nice to look at. For roughly £10 you can do both sides & either pop rivet it on with a wide head pop rivet or something else. They do a really cool black coloured one which will look good on your car. I am doing this now, it may be fine without it, but it would be a real cow to have to loose time and money on an iva 're test for a piece of mesh. hi Jason, I agree with your thinking I just don't want to drill holes in the tubing as I don't want to weaken that area if you get me. might look at Velcro on inside ? cheers paul
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Post by p2tav on Jan 29, 2019 14:54:32 GMT
cheers Stuart, so do I need to put a cover around brake master cylinder? as that area is a bit woolly?? Hi Paul, looks like your going well, one of the lads has just been through IVA with his GType and he didnt mask the area by the M/cylinder. Also none of the other recently IVA'd cars did either. I'll be putting a temporary cover just to avoid the sphere in the pedal area. Hope that helps mate it does mate cheers, it gets quite hard to figure out the small details
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Post by p2tav on Jan 29, 2019 14:58:13 GMT
gents,
the saga goes on lol,
ive just been told if I use the wing mirrors that I have purchased I need to disconnect the indicators on them as you are only allowed one per side so with the ones on the wheel wings I will have to remove the ones on the mirrors ? has any one else heard this ?
cheers
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Post by hammy3601 on Jan 29, 2019 16:45:00 GMT
The side repeaters are more for rear and rear side view than front. If you have fronts fitted and working then either disconnect and mask the mirror ones or fit a pair of £22 CBS IVA ok mirrors mate.
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Post by hammy3601 on Jan 29, 2019 16:46:34 GMT
Also when are you thinking of going for IVA mate? Happy to lend you any of the bits that I use after my IVA
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