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Post by scooby1929 on Apr 28, 2015 15:49:19 GMT
All the best for tomorrow. Bring any receipts, edge trim basic tools etc
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Post by Toed64 on Apr 28, 2015 19:25:57 GMT
Good luck!
One builder posted a final set of photos for others to paw over - there were a few pointers from those with experience...
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Post by freshp5 on Apr 29, 2015 6:22:58 GMT
All the best mate
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Post by trident on Apr 29, 2015 17:14:19 GMT
Well.... How did your day go? Any tips I've got mine in a few weeks time...
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Post by makoto on Apr 29, 2015 22:00:43 GMT
Phew..... not as good as I would've liked it to be. The car failed on a few points, there are 2 points which, I've never heard other cars fail on, but will have to get some input on those. To be honest the initial welcome at the station wasn't there at all ....so no introduction from the tester , or a mini briefing ( like I've heard other testers at other stations did) , so I knew from there it was going to be a rough ride. After about 10min into the test i decided to to break the ice.... . To top this when I start the car at the station, it started to idle erratic, which it never did before and not sure what was causing this. Also communication from the tester was very limited. My test station was Chadderton, in Manchester. Here are the pointers the car failed on: 1. Emissisons: Too high on fast idle: 2. Steering pulls to the right side on braking: - I will have to get the car back to the tracking place where it was done. 3. Side mirrors not secure enough: - I had mine mounted on the cross bar. Now relocating the mirrors to the bonnet (like some of the other builds) 4. Park Brake Control: Hand brake mountings require strengthening Handbrake mounting insecure. - Now this is one of the strange ones, cause I've never heard of any other car fail on this. According to the tester the tunnel against which the handbrake is mounted is to thin therefore insecure. He suggested reinforcing the areas with another thicker piece of material to secure it. Did anybody else come across this and how did you solve it? 5.Headlamps: Incorrect beam pattern. - I am using the MEV headlights and did the pattern change as suggested in a document from Stuart. I had the car at the MOT station afterwards to try and correct it, but didn't work, changed bulbs as well. 6. Seat belts: Top Anchorages not wide enough from centre line of seat. 140mm required. - This is the other strange one I don't understand and not sure how to correct this. The tester compared it with a normal car, where the seatbelt anchor is sort of to the side , whereas on the kitcar it is more to the back which is not correct as it doesn't meet the 140mm . Ive loaded a picture of mine. Any thoughts on this. 7. Rear cover: The tester requested for the rear cover to be removed, to which I declined and explained that it was awkward to do. I showed him the pictures of how it was constructed, but did not seemed to satisfy. So want the cover removed on retest or more in-depth pictures Retest will be 2hrs @ £90.00 . If I'm honest, Im not sure if Im up for all this again. Anyway that was my day. Any suggestion welcome. Oh, the fog lamp lens on the car came undone on the way back and fell off, so if anybody have a spare set of the MEV rear lights, please let me know.
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Post by trident on Apr 29, 2015 22:41:35 GMT
Sorry to here your day didn't go very well. Don't give up.
Just look at each point and try and work through one problem at a time. Post a couple more photo of the seat belt problem and I'm sure there is a solution. Others have passed so it is possible even if you have to move the seat over or change it.
You've invested a lot of time and money to get to this point.. Leave it in the garage for a few days and then go back to it.
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Post by Toed64 on Apr 29, 2015 23:13:40 GMT
Bad luck... I suggest that you speak to Stuart about the seat belt and hand brake issues as it might well be in his interest to fight those battles on your behalf.
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Post by jgilbert on Apr 30, 2015 7:38:50 GMT
makoto, I agree with other posts, don't give up! the finishing line is in sight. At least you now know the points you have to concentrate on, remember of all the other points that was inspected you passed A beer and 24hours reflection is the best advice I can give, man you have built a car with your bare hands, a feat now people would even consider. A few small points shouldn't stop you now.
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Post by scooby1929 on Apr 30, 2015 11:32:30 GMT
That's depressed me reading that and it seems you got a real jobsworth of an IVA examiner but as others say don't through the head up. The handbrake one is bizarre
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Post by Stiggy on Apr 30, 2015 14:16:19 GMT
Sorry to hear this, weird that he found fault with the handbrake mounting, they are very solid. Seat belt top mount is generally not enforced as if you have a harness the top mount is central. Headlights will pass but if you fail it may be best to swap them for the large 7 type lights but will look terrible. Possibly front caliper sticking on one side. Removing the cover will allow him to check that the fuel tank and pipes are safe and secure. Sounds like with a few little tweaks taken one at a time you should have no issues. Good luck. Nearly there.
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Post by gwnwar on Apr 30, 2015 16:52:40 GMT
Just throwing things out to check.. Have you also checked the adjustment on the rear calipers small allen screw under the plug back side of caliper. Tighten till just tight then back off 1/4 turn.. Both wheels should have same drag. Check E brake cable for full release.. Do all the calipers move freely on the slider pins.. They can get gummed up and stick..Air in one line..
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Post by dave on Apr 30, 2015 20:08:05 GMT
I agree that a few days away and a bit of thought and it won't seem as bad. I'm sure you'll be able to address a few problems after what you've accomplished so far, especially with a bit of help from on here.
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Post by Toed64 on Apr 30, 2015 23:00:51 GMT
...Seat belt top mount is generally not enforced as if you have a harness the top mount is central... Stuart, this implies that your top seatbelt mounts do not comply with the IVA book of rules. Correct? If this is so, it will be very awkward to extend the top mounts outward of the frame and Mr VOSA will be expecting a solution to address this issue. Does it follow therefore that a harness bar and a pair of harnesses would be the solution in this case?
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Post by dave on Apr 30, 2015 23:16:32 GMT
...Seat belt top mount is generally not enforced as if you have a harness the top mount is central... Stuart, this implies that your top seatbelt mounts do not comply with the IVA book of rules. Correct? If this is so, it will be very awkward to extend the top mounts outward of the frame and Mr VOSA will be expecting a solution to address this issue. Does it follow therefore that a harness bar and a pair of harnesses would be the solution in this case? Good point I was looking to fit seatbelts now and upgrade to a harness setup post IVA, as I thought that it would be easier, may as well go straight for the harness route now if this is the case.
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Post by freshp5 on May 1, 2015 8:10:43 GMT
We got some wrap around harness for the mevest that pass iva if you go to show I can sort address out thing there was £150 for two
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