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Post by resonance94 on Dec 11, 2018 7:07:59 GMT
Hello everyone.
I start building an Eco Exo.
I have already built a 3 wheeler, so I have some experience.
I am looking for either an existing chassis or plans.
I keep you informed of my ideas
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Post by resonance94 on Dec 11, 2018 14:06:45 GMT
Hello
I find the eco-exo quite fun and a perfect complement to a more powerful reverse trike, but also less easy to use, or requiring more preparation.
It's like a scooter compared to a car.
By cons I'm not a fan of the ark that holds the motorcycle wheels. I preferred a car or single-seater front. It's more classic, heavier, a little more expensive since we do not get the parts of the scooter. but more secure for me.
your opinion ?
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Post by resonance94 on Dec 11, 2018 14:08:51 GMT
I thought to do the 2 seats, maybe in tandem, but we lose the player side, unique.
I think the engine would be a bit right for that.
And then for the 2 seats, there are the other reverse trike.
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Post by roger32849 on Dec 11, 2018 20:12:58 GMT
Hello I find the eco-exo quite fun and a perfect complement to a more powerful reverse trike, but also less easy to use, or requiring more preparation. It's like a scooter compared to a car. By cons I'm not a fan of the ark that holds the motorcycle wheels. I preferred a car or single-seater front. It's more classic, heavier, a little more expensive since we do not get the parts of the scooter. but more secure for me. your opinion ? The Eco-Exo is an easy reverse trike to operate. It has all the speed you need and adequate power behind it. I am also not a fan of the front suspension but it is very sturdy and satisfies the requirement for mounting the Burgman wheels, rotors and calipers. Stuart did a good job of making sure the donor vehicle was used to the maximum. What are your intentions concerning the Eco-Exo? Roger Worcester, Massachusetts |
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Post by resonance94 on Dec 12, 2018 6:19:56 GMT
I understand the maximum use of burgman pieces.
But the goal is also to make the homologation and France is difficult.
I will think, see with the controllers what is acceptable.
Already, you have to find the plans and buy the tubes
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Post by davej98002 on Dec 12, 2018 6:59:19 GMT
There are no plans, none on paper or computer file. Stuart Mills does not have any. Nothing! You will need to get a frame and copy it. But with a total of 12 made, good luck finding a frame, I tried. I hope you can find something to help.
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Post by resonance94 on Dec 12, 2018 11:15:46 GMT
I understand the maximum use of burgman pieces.
But the goal is also to make the homologation and France is difficult.
I will think, see with the controllers what is acceptable.
Already, you have to find the plans and buy the tubes
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Post by roger32849 on Dec 12, 2018 12:58:09 GMT
Every state here in the US has different requirements, some are easy, some are quite difficult. Massachusetts is where I live and is quite strict, but not unreasonably so. I would highly recommend you find out what France requires and do a build around that requirement. Manufacturing plans for the Eco-Exo are not available anywhere. Unless you can obtain an Eco-Exo chassis, or find someone willing take the time to blueprint a chassis, you need to take an alternative path. If you really want to build a Trike I suggest you look at the offering from the MEV product line and order a kit.
If you want to build one of your own design you need to consider what is available for used parts, like suspension and engine along with environment and safety features such as belt restraints, horn, brakes and exhaust emissions. It isn’t as easy as doing a design then going to an automotive supply house for parts. Source your parts locally from any vehicle France manufactures or imports including Scooters, Motorcycles and cars. In short, find out what is legal and available. Do your design around that. You may find an Ideal combination to build a trike that will meet all requirements in France. If you decide to order an MEV kit members of this forum can assist. However if you design your own, then you must seek assistance from another forum such as Dave recommended and provided a link to. Good luck to you....
Roger
Worcester, Massachusetts
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Post by resonance94 on Dec 12, 2018 15:46:52 GMT
I think we do not understand.
I already imagined AND build a trike. It is approved in France. I also have another Trike, a Grinnall.
So I'm very familiar with how to do it and I'm very familiar with the regulations.
I would like to make an eco-eco. I have a contact in England that offers me a chassis already assembled but to finish and tubes to make a 2nd. But it's a bit expensive.
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Post by roger32849 on Dec 12, 2018 16:23:40 GMT
The complete Eco-Exo kit cost me $5000.00 USD, (about 28,500 FF) but that was in 2013. You didn’t say what your contact in the UK wanted for the chassis he had for sale. Accepted, I did not know you were considering buying an approved Eco-Exo chassis. Yes, they are expensive. Supply and demand prices prevail here. If you copied the chassis from England what mechanical aspects would you improve? I would be interested in seeing how you proceed. Tell me more about the chassis that is available, who has it? My first thought is Kelvin? Also you keep mentioning TUBES. I am wondering if the translation from French to English is not as exacting as it should be. Please clarify..
Roger
Worcester, Massachusetts
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Post by resonance94 on Dec 12, 2018 17:21:02 GMT
Tubes! It is the steel cylinders that make up the chassis
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Post by roger32849 on Dec 12, 2018 22:34:32 GMT
Understood...
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Post by resonance94 on Dec 13, 2018 8:06:30 GMT
The improvements will depend on what I'm going to find.
Either a single engine or a complete burgman.
If I have the scooter, I think I will do like the origin.
If I only have the engine, it can be lotus suspensions for example.
And in this case why not take a Guzzi engine, it's compact, powerful like a 650, air cooled. Thinking.
But above all, I want to keep the chassis and the look, the design of L'exo eco
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Post by davej98002 on Dec 13, 2018 18:32:15 GMT
My comment may be opinion only.
If you add any power over what the Burgman 400 has you need to go up 1 size or 2 in tubing wall thickness to be safe.
The Eco-Exo has about a 2 inch tube with a 2mm (0.078") wall thickness, fine for 250cc and just ok for 400cc. You would need to step up to 0.083" or 0.95" or the "Euro metric equivalent" to be safe. Just my opinion. |
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Post by kiwicanfly on Dec 13, 2018 19:00:32 GMT
The Rocket uses 2" x 2.00mm tube, methinks you'll be fine.
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