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Post by edwardscott on Nov 21, 2010 19:15:59 GMT
Just started a Rocket build. This is my first kit car but luckily I have the help of two much more competent friends. This one is using a Mk1 RS Focus as a donor. You can see photos of the build at www.rsrocket.co.uk/. You can also see the very nice exhaust manifold and pipe work Luke at RTR fabricated since I was crazy enough to pick an engine that doesn't fit in the Rocket without relocating the turbo. Edward
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Post by ollieopps on Nov 21, 2010 20:27:37 GMT
Edd Some pictures would be nice.....
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Post by edwardscott on Nov 21, 2010 21:43:44 GMT
The manifold and pipe work: Edward
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Post by flynn on Nov 25, 2010 21:33:46 GMT
That’s lovely. I’m think of going down the RS route. Will be watching enthusiastically
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Post by rock3t on Nov 24, 2018 8:37:00 GMT
Hi Edward I know this was a while ago but I have started building a RTR MEV Rocket II with RS Focus MK1 engine and box. Instead of the turbo I have a Rotrex Supercharger C30-94. My problem is the driveshafts. How did you sort this on your car? How did you car turn out in the end power/handling etc? You can contact me on 07931496467.
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Post by carlyd on Nov 26, 2018 11:41:04 GMT
Hi Edward I know this was a while ago but I have started building a RTR MEV Rocket II with RS Focus MK1 engine and box. Instead of the turbo I have a Rotrex Supercharger C30-94. My problem is the driveshafts. How did you sort this on your car? How did you car turn out in the end power/handling etc? You can contact me on 07931496467. Hi, I had to have custom driveshafts made. They costs £180 I think and the guy that made them makes all of the Spire driveshafts so you know they are of the highest quality. Mine were rated up to 600bhp. I don't have his number anymore but he is called Tony. Maybe you could call Spire and ask for his number. He lives in Maltby, near Rotherham, South Yorkshire.
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Post by jake on Nov 26, 2018 18:41:54 GMT
Just out of interest why are the drivshafts a problem? Would you need custom driveshafts? You have a 5 speed MTX 75 gear box from an mk1 RS focus. Assuming the previous builder also fitted the matching hub flanges from an RS you should be ok with RS drive shafts......or drive shafts from Mk1 2.0 NA petrol focus which also had a MTX75 gearbox. Not sure if the hub flanges splines would be the same though....2.0 vs 2.0 RS? Should be but I’m not 100% I’m sure both differential splines would be the same on both MTX75 gearbox’s, I may be wrong but I’m sure they wouldn’t change that when they put it in the RS. Im sure people have fitted the MTX 75 without any drive shaft issues. ie length...... You need to determine what flanges have been fitted. If RS focus flanges then these should be ok. Anyway these should fit your gearbox and if they’re wrong the flange end you need to find the right flanges....... rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132219486002rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F142408020262Hi Edward I know this was a while ago but I have started building a RTR MEV Rocket II with RS Focus MK1 engine and box. Instead of the turbo I have a Rotrex Supercharger C30-94. My problem is the driveshafts. How did you sort this on your car? How did you car turn out in the end power/handling etc? You can contact me on 07931496467.
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Post by carlyd on Nov 26, 2018 19:51:07 GMT
In my case I had a Honda gearbox with Focus hubs so had to have them made. Interestingly the Focus shafts were hollow while the Honda shafts were solid.
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Post by rock3t on Nov 29, 2018 9:27:39 GMT
Thank you for you replies. After talking to Paul at RTR he said the best solution is to stick to OEM which would make sense. I have ordered the very same RS shafts for both sides and they are about inch too long. I believe that the RS is a bit wider which would explain this. I also ordered ST170 shafts and they look to be the right length but the splines are different so no go there. Paul also said that it would make sense to have the suspension arms modified to fit as this would make the car handle better as well as fixing the problem. I have also just found out the they are RS hubs that have been fitted. What to do???
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Post by jake on Nov 29, 2018 14:05:48 GMT
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Post by James on Nov 30, 2018 20:12:13 GMT
Hi if this helps , I have a supercharged rocket running 300 hp with a Rs MTX gear box using standard 2.0 shafts and have absolutely no problems.
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Post by rock3t on Dec 8, 2018 16:38:55 GMT
Hi James, I really am having problems with this. What is your setup exactly? Could you message me as I can’t message directly yet? Paul at RTR has said he can manufacture me longer wishbones but this still wouldn’t cure the problem as it’s as if the engine is offset or something. The one side is too short and one side is too long. Any chance I can call you? So is it RS mk1 engine, RS mk1 gearbox and shafts of what exactly?
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Post by carlyd on Dec 9, 2018 12:17:18 GMT
If you have the drive shafts custom made they can be any length you choose, and no doubt cheaper than new wishbones. If you decide to go the custom drive shafts route I will try to find my guys number for you if you like?
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Post by rock3t on Dec 9, 2018 14:24:44 GMT
That would be perfect as have decided to go down the replacement driveshaft route. If you could find his number that would be fab! Thank you.
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Post by kiwicanfly on Dec 9, 2018 21:11:55 GMT
It seems to me that there has been a fundamental flaw made either by RTR or the initial builder.
I would certainly not get new wishbones from RTR/EXO as their jigs seem a bit iffy for standard builds, I'd be well wary of a set of non-standard bones. I asked them to make a set of standard configuration for me but using 25mm OD tube and that was beyond them.
Personally I'd be stripping it back to bare, checking the engine mounts are in the right place, checking the engine/box is in the right place, checking the correct hubs are installed before I commissioned anything non-standard.
You may, in the end, have to get new drive shafts but first find out why this is the case.
My big worry would be what next? Even with special drive shafts is there something else that wont fit after those have been purchased.
Only do it if you are 100% sure the problem will be solved and other problems will not arise.
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