I just did a 225 mile ride today with a good friend. Alan has a very nice Harley Tri-Glide. Trike for trike more folks give the Eco-Exo the most thumbs up. I've been thinking over a reverse for the Eco-Exo and am drawing a blank. The big fly in the ointment is the CVT. If it were a chain drive the possibilities would be greater, but!!!!!!. Adding an electric motor is the answer, but where to connect/mount it is the question. The TR1KE has an electric starter motor that engages a gear connected to the primary drive sprocket. Not sure if there is answer other than simply get out and push. ;-)
I just did a ride to Oktoberfest in Appleton,WI yesterday. The trike has been trouble free and I enjoy it more and more as time goes by. As far as reverse I just put my foot through the front X of the frame and push the trike backwards. It is so natural for me and I would never consider a reverse mechanism for my trike.
I know Roger is taller than me and may not be able to do what I can with my shorter frame but it sure works slick for me:)
I cannot believe the reliability of the Eco Exo R. I just fill it up and go! Once in a while I top up the oil a bit but that is about it.
Too bad that it seems like the production of the kits is no more. Like Roger I get many thumbs up wherever I go.
HI,took trike for dyno run but found exhaust pipe cracked so dyno no good. Another problem, the engine oil was all over the case coming from engine breather pipe/filter. Just wondering, what could cause it. I did do high speed cornering - oil surge?
Pipe ordered form Suzuki, will take 10 days. Mechanic also inspecting rings to check is any issues there. Virtually no oil left in engine. Will be relocating the breather pipe to a higher point.
I do constant 75+-to max speed most of times on motorways, wondering if I am stressing the engine with such runs. Will keep posted.
HI, need some help please. We are looking at options to mount 650 engine to trike, but having looked at just the pictures 650 engine is much longer compared to 400 and it looks that the 650 setup will go past the rear of chassis? We were looking at mounting options and not sure anymore.
My fabricator asked me to do some digging around the compatibility but just looking at pics of the two engines there is a huge difference in size as well?
Comments please on what were thoughts around adding 650 engine to ExoR chassis. Also the suspension is two side shocks compared to 400?
Just trying to gestimate man hours from fabricators point of view.
Hi. I am the expert on Burgman 650s on this site. To put a 650 in a Eco-Exo would require a lot of work. The steering would need to be widened and geometry worked out. The 650 engine "Module" is about 20 inches longer and about 150 pounds heaver. It can be done but at a huge expense and time. Then there is the ECVT failure rate on the Burgman 650 to think about. Go to BurgmanUSA.com forum and read in the 650 sections. Some CVT's fail at 20,000 miles ond others at 110,000+ miles. No way to know when or IF you will have a failure. I am on my 4th 650 and 2 of them failed due to crashing into cars or trucks with about 65,000 miles on them.
That said a Honda Silverwing 600, Kymco 700i or Yamaha T-Max are shorter and have about the same power as a Burgman 650, within 5-7 +/- HP.
On two wheels now, one is a car tire. Looking for a 2F1R trike.
I am poor, please do not ask me for money or tools. I will ride 100 miles to help for a beer and sandwich.
The Eco-Exo chassis was originally designed for a 250cc Skyway scooter from Suzuki. A 250cc motor can cruise at around 60 to 65 mph. The 400cc Burgman both 1st and 2nd generation is about all that chassis will handle. It will cruise at 70 mph all day long. Let's face it, you can put a 1000 horsepower in a Smart fortwo car, but where are you going to sit, and would you really want that much power. That being said, you can put a 650 Burgman engine in an Eco-Exo, but where are you going to sit?.?..... and again, would you really need that much power.
Step up to a TR1ke. I did. At 180 Horsepower, you enter a class that you are trying to put the Eco-Exo in, and the TR1KE can handle the extra horses just fine. Turnkey trikes come up for sale every now and then. Just keep an eye open for them. Keep the Eco-Exo for fun and drive the TR1KE for excitement and adrenaline rush. :-)
I am assuming you have a crankcase ventilation system. If you have excessive pressure coming from the vent hose it indicates you MAY HAVE a blow by situation. Where the power stroke blows past your piston rings and pressurize's the crankcase. This pressurization can and usually does blow oil out. This could account for your loss of power. Another senerio is your exhaust is restricted and again pressuring the crankcase blowing oil and resulting in power loss.
Hi Roger, got the trike back been re dynoed and producing 27.76 at wheels. It could have been little more but I just got a quieter baffle and mechanic said it is restricting a lot. I had to decide between booming sound and some BHP gains. The dyno report said engine hitting limiter at 9K revs approx 85MPH anything more will be stretching the redline.
This set up is much nicer as not bleeding ears on long rides, I wear custom earplugs all the time. There is less crackle on over runs and not scaring country horses anymore. So good.
Glad to hear all is well with your Eco-Exo. 27 bhp at the wheel isn't bad, good in fact. I believe your engine is rated at 32 bhp and you are only off that mark by 15%+- a little.
I have been busy with some wiring on my TR1ke. I am now waiting for some parts to come in before I continue. Until I get it on the road, I will drive my Eco-Exo. It has really been fun this summer. I believe I have logged few thousand on it. Enough for the "maintenance required" warning to come on. I should get a few more rides before it gets cold. I am thinking about a Leo Vincent exhaust. I hear mine rattling. Sort of like marbles rolling around in a coffee tin. I may remove the baffle and see if it is just the baffle stays moving a bit. I had it out this past week and the rattling noise comes and goes. During the ride it got cold once the sun went down. Was I ever glad I installed the side panels. No wind and the cold doesn`t affect you hardly at all.
Tomorrow I will take out the V Star 1100 and enjoy a bit of the open road. It is fall foliage time here in Massachusetts and "Leaf Peepers" come from all over to see the colors.... mainly on the weekends. It is beautiful this time of year, especially in the Berkshires.
Again congratulations on a successful dyno.... happy riding and keep the pretty side up and what's round on the ground.
Hi guys, trust all well. Been riding trike in winters. Love it on weekends here in Surrey hills. I am unable to upload youtube videos via photobucket, any other options that I could try.
I have noticed that I have to use accelerator as choke before starting in cold as trike is taking much longer to start, not sure if it is cold or some alterations done in last dyno as trike always started first time before the dyno. No loss in battery charge in cold, so has to be something with fueling. Anyways loving the process of twisting throttle cable and firing the engine.
Been looking at 7" Headlamps for the classic look. All good for now. My new video on youtube 'Reverse Trike winter drive, Nov 2016'. Best
Seems that last Dyno has caused fuelling issues as trike won't start after many attempts. Just need some fettling with air/fuel mix as suggested by recovery guy. Trike started in first go with battery boost and carb cleaner spray.
I have found a company selling 135 70 13 Hankook which I want to install on fronts as current 125 80 profile is not giving the right stance. Also higher profile has resulted in a groove running right through centre of both tyres caused by wing screw, so their are very close to touching the fender. I did manage several fun drifts on roundabouts in the greasy weather here. Just wondering if wider profile will rob the handling too much as trike will be slower and feel factor marginally numb?
I am still running Bridgestone Hoop tires on all three. I had my close call with darksiding my rear tire. I went back to OEM Burgman specs. This summer I was entering a 65MPH highway and was accelerating (hard) on the ramp. I felt the rear tire break loose and I did a little drifting. Drifting is fine if you are "trying" to drift. It isn't cool when you don't plan on it happening. One other time I was doing a rapid accelleration around another corner, hit a little sand and slid 90° straight for the guard railing. No harm.... but was a 10 on my pucker factor.
I enjoy reading your posts. Not sure what the problem could be with the hard to start issue, except maybe a clogged fuel line.