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Post by smokinguitarplayer on Mar 4, 2015 15:45:23 GMT
Roger, Ed and Erik, and everybody else. I"ve been reviewing your blogs on this forum and your historical records of your builds ...very good stuff there ...a LOT to digest. My question is has anybody ever made a list of all the things that will need to be done .. like for instance , minimal necessary brackets / welds that need to be fabricated etc. etc ... It seems this would be a great place to start ..
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Post by qdos on Mar 4, 2015 17:57:50 GMT
Hi Fred, great to hear you are going to make a start on your trike, just let us know when! ;-) As it seems there's quite a few aviators in here I figure I may as well pop up a picture of me flying one of my wings too, though I've not flown in quite some time now. Once upon a time I flew every weekend and at one point almost daily!  I'd definitely recommend labelling and photographing the donor strip down especially the wiring loom I use a Brother labeller and Dymo do the same kind of labeller that prints labels from a cassette of tape. Bracket wise it depends on what you want to hang onto the frame but as far as I'm aware there's one for all the essentials though holes for fixings such as lights depend on what specifically you are using. |
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Post by roger32849 on Mar 6, 2015 4:47:15 GMT
Roger, Ed and Erik, and everybody else. I"ve been reviewing your blogs on this forum and your historical records of your builds ...very good stuff there ...a LOT to digest. My question is has anybody ever made a list of all the things that will need to be done .. like for instance , minimal necessary brackets / welds that need to be fabricated etc. etc ... It seems this would be a great place to start .. There are several brackets to make. For sure 4 for the bonnet and another 4 for the tank cover. One bracket for the rear fender (hugger) and 4 for the license plate holder fender. There are more. I would use 1 inch by 1/4" thick flat stock. You will need to thread them. There is no such thing as a standard set amount. Every build is different and every layout changes when you do a change in a build sequence... it usually affects something else. So, to say a set amount or a standard.... it only applies if you copy someone build exactly. If you need information in a particular area, will tell you how I did mine and help you with anything I can.... As Larry the Cable Guy says.... GET ER DONE!! ROGER |
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Post by smokinguitarplayer on Mar 6, 2015 14:20:45 GMT
OK .thanks Roger, I suspect you will be hearing a lot of questions from me. I DO have a great "assistant" to help me ... a former engineer with Penske racing who can do just about anything including building high tech racing engines and fabrication. I think that should do the trick ...we shall see ...as soon as it stops snowing every day I'm gonna get my butt in gear . I hate the cold and my workspace is pretty cold.
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Post by DYMOSupport on Mar 6, 2015 15:44:55 GMT
Hi Fred, great to hear you are going to make a start on your trike, just let us know when! ;-) As it seems there's quite a few aviators in here I figure I may as well pop up a picture of me flying one of my wings too, though I've not flown in quite some time now. Once upon a time I flew every weekend and at one point almost daily! [Image] I'd definitely recommend labelling and photographing the donor strip down especially the wiring loom I use a Brother labeller and Dymo do the same kind of labeller that prints labels from a cassette of tape. Bracket wise it depends on what you want to hang onto the frame but as far as I'm aware there's one for all the essentials though holes for fixings such as lights depend on what specifically you are using. Hiya Qdos, Wonderful suggestion to make use of a label, it can be easily printed, easily stuck on things and it lasts and I am very happy that we have been part of your adventures as well as serving our purpose very well. I would love to see what else you and the others here might have used their Dymo for and how well it worked out for you all. Warm regards, Jesper K DYMOSupport |
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Post by mawdo81 on Mar 6, 2015 17:39:11 GMT
I "sold" the idea to my wife on the basis you can get fabric tape that irons on clothes. Much easier than sewing for school uniform for the children...
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Post by edvb on Mar 7, 2015 0:50:36 GMT
The best I have used in the states is a Brady BMP21 with nylon tape. It does everything you would want and be legible many years later.
Fred, relax and start building the trike! It sounds like you are in good hands and everything will fall in place. None of us have built anything like this in our lifetime and they seem to turn out OK.
Just build it! You just can't imagine the grin on your face cruising by.
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Post by qdos on Mar 7, 2015 10:07:10 GMT
Indeed. Just build it.
There's a whole load of nonsense put out by people to knock people's confidence in making things and jazzing things up to make them sound ever so complicated, just watch any news/tv broadcast and they'll make anything sound like you have to be Einstein and backed by NASA to be able to even make a paper aeroplane. It's what people do
I've been a car nut my whole life and I can honsetly say that Kits are a whole lot easier to work on than mass produced tin boxes and that's the point really. A mass manufacturer builds things to be easy for a production line and wants to keep Joe Public out from under the bonnet. Kits are made so that anyone can work on them.
As you can see here we also enjoy sharing. Dive on in there and do it, it is such a buzz to be able to step back and say "I made that"
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Post by erik on Mar 7, 2015 12:30:09 GMT
"I made that" There is no way to be more proud on a self crafted piece of hobby no matter what. In reverse I could state there is nothing even more shame then buying a pre build kit LOL!! if you haven't build it yourself you will have to confess to every interested at the gas station you didn't build it yourself. One good reason to build one yourself IMO. An other big plus is you have total control to document the progress,needed parts and quality control which makes it more valueable and easier to repair in future by you or costumers (if you like to sell her one day).
Just start building yes, one step at the time. Start with the grp brackets and go from there.
The only time consuming part is the assembly of the front arms. There is a mix of Imperial and metric hardware needed and this will take quite some time to source.
Get some ideas for the colors you like to use and draw one Exo on paper like I did. This will give you time to reconsider your choice during the construction because when this is done you need to be sure it's correct or you will have a major stall in building pace!
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Post by qdos on Mar 7, 2015 12:36:49 GMT
Or as some say.... If you didn't build it is just traffic!
Looking forward to hearing how you progress. A good starting point is to label up things before taking them apart so as to familiarise yourself with things. From them on it gets easier
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Post by roger32849 on Apr 2, 2015 12:06:33 GMT
Fred... I am writing to see if you have started your build yet. We are all a curious on how it will look and if you need any help from anyone on the forum. I know you have a business or two to run and that doesn't leave much time to dedicate to much else, still if you find time give us a shout.
Roger
Worcester, Massachusetts
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Post by smokinguitarplayer on Apr 3, 2015 14:54:03 GMT
Roger (and everybody else) . This past week I had my first "session" with my hired helper . We just organized the shop and he took a look at all the parts / etc. I have accumulated and we familiarized ourselves with the job at hand. If my helper stays on board, and I think he will, I am in great shape. He grew up with my son and after graduating from engineering school he was building race cars for Penske racing, including engine building and fabrication. He will be able to help me over ANY hurdles but please prepare yourselves for questions as we progress. He is working for a very reasonable rate ..I would never be able to afford what he's worth... for the skills he is bringing. Next week we will actually start .. plan is to put the front end together first and sort of work our way from there. ... PS.. he is also co-owner of a specialty car-parts shop that specialized in "foreign car" parts for over 50 years ..he's 2nd generation ... so bits are gonna be real easy also.
PS .. I have the extra front wheel with brake stuff, extra Burgman 400 axle etc. I also have what appears to be a Fiat steering "stalk" with the switches etc. on it ... steering wheel adapter ...etc. I have a wiring harness, new master cylinder ... If you can think of any other bits I should have let me know! Frankly I had forgotten what I had accumulated....
FB
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Post by qdos on Apr 7, 2015 12:01:19 GMT
I think you've missed the steering rack you need that too from the Fiat
Good to hear you're making some progress again and great to have a second pair of hands too. Looking forward to seeing you get it built
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Post by smokinguitarplayer on Apr 8, 2015 17:47:11 GMT
I have a steering rack, I think I had them send me on with the frame so I'm probably good to go ..thanks
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Post by smokinguitarplayer on Apr 8, 2015 17:47:31 GMT
I have a steering rack, I think I had them send me on with the frame so I'm probably good to go ..thanks oops ignore duplicate post.
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