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Post by theancientone on Oct 26, 2016 8:45:11 GMT
Hi.....have done a (probably inadequate) search but didn't find what I'm looking for.
Has anyone, please, got experience of 949 Racing's Xida coilovers or Flyin Miata's Fox coilovers on an Exocet?
Thanks.
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Post by clintavo on Oct 28, 2016 6:26:01 GMT
I also want to hear any reviews on the these. On the Miata, they rock, but the OEM suspension on the Exocet is quite hard, so I haven't gone with anything stiffer.
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Post by theancientone on Oct 29, 2016 5:08:12 GMT
My understanding is that the Xidas are supplied for Miatas / MX5s with 700 / 400 springs. There's a video on YouTube showing Xidas working on an Exocet, and these have 700 / 400 springs.
However 949 have told me that they run 550 / 350 springs on Exocets, so I've ordered a set with these springs.
Not that it's any big deal to swap springs.
949 also say that we'll need the Exomotive Shock Spacers, and the Exocet in the mentioned video is fitted with the Exomotive spacers. But I'm going to wait until the Xidas are delivered to make a judgement on this. I'm not entirely sure that the UK and USA Exocet chassis frames are identical.
Being in the UK I've ordered the Xidas from AST UK, who, I believe, manufactured the first generation Xidas.
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Post by dietcoke on Oct 29, 2016 10:47:01 GMT
Without spacers, there isn't enough droop travel available.
I disagree with the 550/350 recommendation, as well, but it depends on your intended purpose.
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Post by theancientone on Oct 29, 2016 12:13:57 GMT
The car is for 100% track use, so we're after maximum grip. Not bothered about appearance or comfort. Which springs would you suggest please? I tend to take 949's word as gospel.
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Post by dietcoke on Oct 29, 2016 16:52:42 GMT
If it's for track use with track tires, at LEAST the 700/400.
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Post by theancientone on Oct 29, 2016 17:08:37 GMT
Thanks....better speak to AST!
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Post by theancientone on Oct 30, 2016 4:48:50 GMT
....by the way, if you consider 700 / 400 to be the softest springs for track work, which ratings do you consider to be best please? I've read somewhere that valving out of the box covers the range 400 to 900.
Which springs do you use on your Exocet for track use?
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Post by dietcoke on Oct 30, 2016 18:48:03 GMT
I h ave 550/350 right now and it's terribly undersprung. Moving to 800/450 next season
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Post by theancientone on Oct 30, 2016 19:14:09 GMT
OK. I've changed our Xida order to 700 / 400, so we'll see how we get on with them.
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Post by phocup on Nov 3, 2016 13:11:26 GMT
Hmm .. now I'm kinda worried about my Apexi N1 being only 448 / 336.
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Post by theancientone on Nov 3, 2016 14:46:47 GMT
Hmm .. now I'm kinda worried about my Apexi N1 being only 448 / 336. .....for track use? |
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Post by phocup on Nov 3, 2016 15:10:05 GMT
That's the plan .. after I was sold on it as being what was used on the "2016 Ultimate Skidpad Challenge Overall Winner V8 Exocet".
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Post by boileralum on Nov 7, 2016 15:12:26 GMT
I h ave 550/350 right now and it's terribly undersprung. Moving to 800/450 next season FWIW, your car is also a bit heavier than a BP powered car as well. |
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Post by phocup on Nov 8, 2016 19:30:07 GMT
So Kevin @ Exomotive confirmed for me that the spring rates I have is what they ran on the V8 Exo that won the skidpad challenge. That is a relief for me as it means I'm starting from an 'okay' setup.
Also confirmed that the Blackbox Exocet is running XIDAS 550F / 350R.
Now for the troubling part. While looking into it more, I'm heard from a source close to Roman, the owner of that Blackbox car, about issues with the Exo suspension setup. Supposedly 949 Racing spent lots of time working with him to get those Xidas working as well as it does on Miata. The fact that the car is on sale now supposedly mean they weren't able to.
Also rumors of FM's Turbo and V8 Exo getting lapped by 'normal' Miatas at MRLSC this year. Supposedly the Exo chassis messed up the OEM Miata suspension geometry so off the shelf Miata suspension parts doesn't perform as well ?
In order words, it seems the Exo chassis is great as a weekend fun toy that's different and cool, but doesn't really 'scale up' well ( yet ) when the performance envelope is pushed.
I think to really dig into this further I need to contact Blackbox to hear what Roman has to say .. will update when I find out more.
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