I think it's down to perception - before I needed an MX5 donor I rarely saw them on the road; after, I saw them everywhere! There is also the tendency for some riders to store their 2 wheelers over the winter months.
It's a common cognitive bias but I forget the specific term. As a kid I'd get the same playing with Lego, in reverse. Couldn't find an X for love nor money. As soon as I'd given up and moved on I couldn't move for Xs...
1.8 with IB5 - Back end too rusty but great learning 2.0 with MTX75 - Donor of choice Last RTR Sonic 7 Chassis final piecing together Body Panels in Bloodhound SSC
I sat on this topic a few days and decided I would make an observation. There really doesn't seem to be "much" of a shortage of donor Burgman AN400's in the UK. I would imagine there is a significant number of available Burgman donors per available Eco-Exo kits. They are scattered about on ebay and more than likely a few around using word of mouth campaigns in various neighborhoods. The trouble with donors is quite simple. You must have something for the donor to be used for. Naturally we on this forum prefer the Eco-Exo as the prime reason to sacrifice a Burgman. I know there are potential Eco-Exo builders out there that really want to build their own trike. So, while we are all academically discussing woulda - Coulda - Shoulda theories about donors and what would be acceptable to propel the ECO-EXO, there needs to actually be an Eco-Exo manufactured to be propelled.
That being said, I whole heartedly agree with everyone that has written about this amazing Reverse Trike. It is sturdy, safe, fun, fast, and unfortunately needing someone to pick up the manufacturing rights and continue building the kits. I have logged several thousand miles in mine. Daily rides easily going 250 to 300 miles. With the Burgman 400 engine, I have passed much larger Motorcycles while cruising in the mountains. By shear handling alone I can litterly scream around tight corners, and yes, even drifted around a few. I have dived into pot holes and came out straight. Nearly ZERO bump steer. I crank up my on-board Ipod and fill up the tank and stay gone for the day.
What is needed, is someone to buy into this fantastic machine enough to become a manufacturer. If you "think" you can build it, then you will succeed.
Roger Worcester, Massachusetts
Last Edit: Feb 10, 2016 21:41:01 GMT by roger32849
It has been over a month since my last post in this thread. I would like to think someone out there has the time and inclination to pick up the manufacturing rights for the Eco-Exo project and build it into something more than what it has become. There hasn't been an Eco-Exo produced in over a year and whether Kelvin will sell his interests, or reconsider his decision not to manufacture is all left to speculation and guesswork. I personally believe it is to early for a funeral for the Eco-Exo project, but perhaps a memorial might be appropriate.
We, the owners of the Eco-Exo have ours. It was a fun kit to build and a fun trike to drive. We are probably not likely to buy another Eco-Exo kit. It would, however, be nice to see more of them on the road.
Is it dead.... not sure.... it definitely has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana skin.
Post by Mills Extreme Vehicles on Mar 13, 2016 10:43:34 GMT
I would hope that it will find a new home, BUT how is anyone going to know if the project is for sale or not? It's not even in this forums "For sale" section and I have not seen it mentioned anywhere else.
roger32849 , Kelvin qdos has not been on the forum since his announcement to withdraw.
I make no promises, but I will be attending Stoneleigh and shall make a point of tracking down Kelvin, if there, in the hope of getting an explanation regarding the future of the Eco-Exo, that I shall be happy to share will all on this forum.
Thanks for the information Roger. So in the UK at least there is very low demand, as three out of four cars were built by the company producing them. Not hard to see why they decided to move it on.
I think it's a hard sell, because people looking for economy will probably look for something with a little more comfort, and people looking for sport will probably veer more towards something like the TR1ke, which offers a much higher PWR.
The Eco-Exo offers an alternative to "brute force power", it isn't all about economy or comfort. The kit is ideal for a person that is on a budget and is looking to get into a first build that will not break the bank. It isn't exactly a stick of dynamite but there is plenty of "bang for the buck". I personally ride large tour bikes and do a lot of cross country riding. I enjoy the freedom that provides. I also like to take my Eco-Exo-R on the rides closer to home. It is great in traffic, its agile and fun to drive. In my case it isn't all about the power, it is about the ride, the scenery, the shear fun of getting out of the house and enjoying the day without making an adrenaline rush of it. I will be 67 in a couple of weeks, perhaps it is my age speaking and doing the reasoning, but I've ridden a lot of miles on a motorcycle, worn a few out and I have to admit, this trike offers something that is equally as enjoyable. The Eco-Exo may not be as popular as the more profitable MEV line-up, but it has its place.
Nigel: That would be a very good thing to do if you see Kelvin. I know it hasn't exactly worked out in his favor here on the forum, but I still feel Kelvin is in the best position to manufacture than anybody else I know.
Watch out everbody, Monday is sneaking up on us.... Oh wait, I'm retired... false alarm!
I'm not the one you have to convince. I like small modestly powered vehicles, currently restoring an Isetta, which has a third of the PWR of the Eco Exo. Just highlighting the simple truth that this is a vehicle with low demand, and that will undoubtedly temper appeal to a producer.