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Post by erik on Dec 8, 2014 17:46:34 GMT
Hi Kelvin, Welcome to the Exo community It's great to see this kit will be continued. I guess you have already weeded through our threads and retrieved good insight how the kit is constructed. tough it's a nice kit, there is room for some tweaking and if you could use some thoughts just contact us. After all, research fuels success. It's even great to see new costumers have interest in this kit and it's a great start! please take proper care of the design if you want to upgrade the engine. Imo, the engine is fine but hard to get in europe. Not sure more power is good for the handling the way the exo is now. After all it's marketed as a commutter, not a racer. good luck! Erik
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Post by davej98002 on Dec 9, 2014 0:58:02 GMT
Being that in the UK the 02-06 Burgman 400 was common a few years ago, I could see why Stuart made the frame for that engine. But on BurgmanUSA.com it looks like the 07 up has become more common and available in the breakers/auction houses world wide. In USA, we did not get the Burgman 400 till 03 and all are Fuel Injected. And the 07 up has a common Car tire that fits the rear rim, 155/60 HR 13's are common. So a running change to 07 up motor mounts may be needed.
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Post by edvb on Dec 9, 2014 2:01:38 GMT
Hi Dave
I know you are still set on a 650 but after driving mine over 1500 mile the 400 is plenty as far as horsepower is concerned.
Kelvin
I do agree that to move forward, the 07 400 and above would be the engine to fit in the Eco Exo R. The parts for the older ones are getting scarce and pricey so to move forward in my opinion would be the way to go.
I also believe getting a different fuel tank made so the stock air box can be used is worth doing as part of the kit.
While I went to the extreme a good compromise would be to use some of the body parts Roger has made such as the air Scoop as it is pleasing in shape and works well.
It really depends on what you want to do with the kits. Some changes need to be made to make it easier to build as at this time many pieces still have to be fabricated and welded on.
The bonnet and how the windshield is attached would need to change as the 07 and above instrument panels are wider and would need a change in design to be easier to build and be structurally sound.
For me the bonnet design I came up with is very strong and can be completely removed in a couple minutes. Only one 1/4-20 socket head for the instrument console is needed to also completely remove it from the trike.
There are many ideas that the builders here came up with to complete their builds. Going through those and incorporating some of those in the latest kits will insure success for all future builders out there.
Edward
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Post by roger32849 on Dec 9, 2014 2:45:14 GMT
I am not sure who else has a 2007 (and newer) power train in their kit, but in my case it works great. I used the upper motor hanger and front shock linkage from the older model Burgman 400. It was just a simple modification to adapt but simplified the install and centered the engine perfectly.
I agree with Edward on keeping the Burgman 400 engine. I have been at the 75 MPH point as indicated by my speedometer. The 400 also has enough power to sustain a long ride. I put over 2000 miles on my trike, made some very minor modifications and added the cooling scoop. The power and speed are both there utilizing the current motor. A kit car vehicle is always a work in progress, it is the joy of the build to place your own unique style and design into what you build. I understand why Dave wants to do one utilizing 650 engine. I would strongly recommend anyone buying this kit for that purpose to have a back up plan and a spare donor Burgman 400. You will need both.
Kelvin, welcome to the club, we are excited for both you and Scott. I look forward to seeing what your ideas are and the direction you take this remarkable fun to drive trike. You already have an eager product improvement committee, complete with successful designs, engineered engine transplant techniques, cooling system mods and forward thinking/looking owners.
Good luck... (Now get to work)
Roger Worcester, Massachusetts
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Post by davej98002 on Dec 13, 2014 18:53:53 GMT
The nice thing about open forums is that we can learn from each other and the manufacture gets some free R&D info. Kelvin, I invite you to go over to the www.BurgmanUSA.com web site and read up on the Burgman 400's (and 650's too). There are so many members over there and the information is free.
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Post by qdos on Dec 13, 2014 21:44:38 GMT
Thank you Dave I already had that bookmarked
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Post by roger32849 on Jan 26, 2015 9:19:18 GMT
Kelvin:
I just noticed I have been writing Kevin instead of Kelvin. I sincerely apologize, no disrespect intended. I will, in the future, get it right...
Roger
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Post by roger32849 on Jan 26, 2015 9:39:31 GMT
Post moved to "650 or not" thread
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Post by davej98002 on Jan 27, 2015 5:04:29 GMT
Keven Kevin is still the US distributor down in Georgia. Edit, now I'm Phat Phingering my typing.
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Post by Stiggy on Jan 27, 2015 11:08:07 GMT
Kevin at exomotive
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Post by qdos on Jan 27, 2015 13:10:04 GMT
Often times I say it would be easier if my name was John Smith.... Just to clarify in case people are getting confused. I (qdos) am Kelvin Kinkaid and I bought the Eco-Exo Trikes business from Scott Turner in December. I am in the UK, like Scott and Stuart Mills and will continue to manufacture the Eco-Exo range here in the UK Kevin Patrick is in Atlanta Georgia USA and is an agent for the Eco-Exo range in the USA as has been the case for the past few years alongside other MEV/Road Track Race kits. Nothing's really changed other than I've taken over from Scott with the manufacture and development of Eco-Exo trikes. So just make certain Kelvin makes Eco-Exos in the UK, and Kevin is the USA Atlanta agent.
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