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Post by daveisom1 on Dec 19, 2013 15:07:01 GMT
I built my trike earlier this year using a 2000 model R1 and from the driving that I have done so far I have to say it has more power than I can put down on the road. Very good rule I was taught and have always followed in engineering is keep it simple
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Post by mattyboy on Dec 19, 2013 16:37:05 GMT
I don't see how fitting an injected engine into the the trike will affect the breathing or exhaust of the engine, unless you upgrade the exhaust system or change the air filter that is. From what I have read on the R1 forums you shouldn't do either of these things unless you fit a power commander and re tune it or you will get miss fire. Apparently standard maps are available on PC website so RR may not be required. I plan to cut down a standard exhaust and keep the original air filter anyway, so I don't see why I will have an issues installing my engine into the trike, as I won't of changed the characteristics of the exhaust or air induction. Will I ? Hmmm!!!! I wonder if I am being naive. Check out the vids of Slugshots carb trike on youtube it is a real screamer. If my bike is anywhere near as good I will be chuffed. I think it has been mentioned already but the 02/03 injection engines (like mine) are the same bhp as a carb engine anyway. If you want more bhp as standard you need an 04+ model.
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Post by paulh on Dec 19, 2013 17:45:21 GMT
Only issue I had with mine before the power commander was fitted, was a slight flat spot,which could well have been there when the engine was in the bike. With no bike license I couldnt test ride it. I put new plugs in before the rolling road session and I think that pretty much cured it anyway, but the power commander and custom map have taken the power up by around 30hp. I can see no reason why any injection engine would not run just as well in the tr1ke as it did in a bike
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Post by slugshot on Dec 19, 2013 22:00:10 GMT
Just trying to nail down potential costs a little more and need to understand what extras I will need if I went for a fuel injection model. Reading other build threads it sounds like power commanders are normally required and a session on a rolling road to get over the change in engine breathing compared to when it was happily housed in the bike - are these an essential add-on for injected engines or can they be run without a PC without causing any issues? Only asking as if that is the case then the £1200 extra purchase cost of a newer bike can quickly have another £500 added on with PC and setup time? (sorry if I am asking obvious questions - only dealt with carb'd engines previously which at worst needed a re-jet and tweaking.) The power commander is only needed if you fit straight through race silencers, Rik has an 04 r1 in his tR1ke and I seem to remember him stating that his ran fine std. Its no different from the carb model r1 really, it will run ok without causing any damage but if you were to fit the PC and spend some time with a good dyno operator you should notice an improvement. |
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Post by wonderbadger on Dec 21, 2013 15:54:56 GMT
Been to see the later 2004 bike this morning and it looks like its a goer, compares favorably to others of that model price-wise, 12,700 miles on the clock and the MOTs all stack up mileage-wise. Not that much dealer service history but the owner has had it almost 5 years and is obviously an enthusiast, I suspect it's ridden reasonably hard (but I suspect most R1s that haven't scared the owner too much are ridden hard). Few marks on it but all where you expect from feet catching when getting on and certainly doesn't look bad for getting on for 10 years old. Chain and sprockets have been changed recently and it started from cold very nicely so unless the gearbox is goosed it shouldn't bite me.
Plus points and the thing which swung it as worth a bet are the aftermarket Termignoni carbon cans and de-cat pipe, aftermarket rear-sets, brake leavers, ohlins steering damper and some other nice to haves for bike owners so they should increase what I can recover from resale - it also comes with all the original factory parts as well so I get to double up on the sale of the parts I don't need.
All being well it should be on its way here tomorrow morning ready to start dissecting it.
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Post by erik on Dec 21, 2013 17:06:05 GMT
Looks like a nice deal.
Get some film in your camera and make good pics. You will need them later big time for the tR1ke project.
good luck!
Erik
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Post by slugshot on Dec 21, 2013 22:34:14 GMT
It sounds like you hopefully got a nice bike with some good extras to sell, have you checked to see if it has a power commander fitted.
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Post by wonderbadger on Dec 22, 2013 17:10:05 GMT
Bike was delivered today so now the fun begins... put some additional shelving up in the garage to hold all the parts as I strip it - it's not going to be the fastest job in the world as I do need to justify my existence by completing work on the house as well, this is going to be my reward for times when I am not swearing at tiling or plastering or any of the other hundreds of jobs that are still needed in the house  Thankyou to everyone who answered my random questions on this thread, unfortunately I am sure it will be the first of many as I work my way through the job!  |
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Post by slugshot on Dec 22, 2013 17:55:10 GMT
Very nice, now the fun begins  |
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Post by erik on Dec 22, 2013 19:35:38 GMT
Beautiful bike to ruin  |
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Post by wonderbadger on Dec 23, 2013 11:26:37 GMT
The bikes are rather impressive pieces of kit, I have been informed though that I have no interest in riding it as it is and its only purpose is to sacrifice itself.  |
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Post by mattyboy on Dec 23, 2013 11:35:08 GMT
That is one nice looking bike... Well done, from what you have said you made a good choice. |
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