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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 21:56:48 GMT
Regarding calipers: Im sure RTR will supply gold if requested.(I've ordered red from them) Doubt they will have any colour in stock though - Think HiSpec only make them to order.
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Post by slugshot on Nov 29, 2013 21:59:17 GMT
Hi Matt
Hispec don't stock the calipers never mind RTR, when ordering your brake setup just tell RTR what colour calipers and which style of disc you want, the standard hispec caliper colour is plain ally silver and its a bit cheaper.
I have lightweight seats with no padding at all but because i'm sat in them not on them they're very comfortable.
As for nuts and bolts, you will get to know your local supplier as you will need lots as they don't come in the kit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 22:48:08 GMT
If you tell RTR you want gold calipers they will no doubt order them for you. I went for grooved discs, I advise you to not buy drilled discs as they will crack between holes under intense heat. This advice comes from many experts and people fitting them were deemed to be posers from the replies I got from a number of specialists :-)
I would say allow £1000 for seats, brakes, nuts and bolts. A further £500 maybe for silicone hoses, clips etc I would advise buying High Tensile 12.8 bolts for the front suspension, steering etc, and 8.8 is fine for everything else. I know Kevin has high grade stainless on everything and it seems to be fine, once again I was advised by 2 engineers to not go for Stainless over the stress issue, but I have to say that Kevin's trike is under as much strain as any vehicle I have seen being driven (he is a very spirited fast driver) and nothing has broken on his trike with regard to Stainless fittings. They certainly look great.
I presume there is still no build manual, so just take your time, you have many build threads to follow. Ask as many questions as you need to, upload pictures of problems, and ask away for advice.
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Post by mattyboy on Nov 30, 2013 7:50:06 GMT
WTF!!! No manual! Are you winding me up? Are there no Nuts and bolts at all supplied? Thanks for the brake advise I think I will ask RTR to supply calipers then also. Do you think gold will look OK with orange and black body and frame.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 10:09:37 GMT
Personally, I would opt for Black calipers, and colour the lettering in with Tangerine, but I guess gold will look fine. Im not winding you up, maybe things have changed, but I didn't get any manual. no nuts and bolts either, erm you have to look at how much you are paying really, my MNR was a complete kit with everything supplied apart from donor engine but this kit was £16,000
So for my build this was a breakdown of cost for me.
Kit £4800 Brakes £400 Seats £340 Wheels £100 Venhill brake lines and banjos to make up £100 Nuts n Bolts £500 Hoses, clips etc £500 Donor vehicle cost me £1250 was short lived and engine was buggered so a further £500 for my mates engine All my extra clocks from USA, fuel sender £400 Gear cable and clutch cable from Venhill £100 They make cables to your spec, very fast delivery and excellent source for custom cables
I suggest doing each stage carefully and get the bits you need ahead of each task, and silly things that you think might take 5 minutes end up taking up 2 hrs, other things you over think and they take no time at all. Keep all receipts, no matter how small, keep track of any eBay purchases, print out the advert and if possible attach the Paypal invoice to them. Needed for MSVA
Don't stress about no manual, my MNR had a manual and it was cr@p. It showed all the bits on the floor for each stage, and then the next pic fully assembled. If you don't know then ask. Don't let no manual worry you, it will all become common sense when its in front of you.
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Post by andy7b on Nov 30, 2013 19:14:15 GMT
Mine didn't come with a manual but I really wouldn't worry it is a nice simple thing and like Venom says just ask if you have any questions, I did think it should come with a few bolts but to be honest for the price it's not the end if the world to get your own. I got the brakes from RTR as that way you know they will be correct and it's not really any cheaper to find your own. Andy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 23:31:28 GMT
I bought my reverse direct only because I knew the bracket for the one RTR were selling needed modifying before it would fit and work properly, once again, they might have got this much better now. But I know many fabricators using Laser cut units that cut up to 45mm material, so I made my own mounting bracket from wood, test fitted it and tested the reverse and it worked, then had it made from 8mm alloy. Still think I will end up with a piece of Stainless so probably wont have saved much.
Of course you can go cheaper on materials, but I would say its worth spending a little extra. You can spend £100 on seats, £340 for seats like mine, or £1000 for Carbon. Brake lines I made my own, because I wanted to, there are many pre-made lines off the shelf. But one thing to note for sure, you need some sort of fabrication incentive to build the trike, what I mean is, there are a number of things you will have to modify, make in order to build the trike, if you are not handy with a welder, or use to making brackets etc, then make sure you have a friend who is.
This is a kit car after all. Nothing ever just bolts together, nothing ever just fits like Ikea as the dutch would point out, but to be fair £5000 for a kit car is pretty cheap nowadays. You have to accept that this is a hand made frame, in a jig. It isn't welded together by robots. I have built two vehicles so far, both were challenging in different ways.
But the end result is where you need to focus, if by June next year you are losing faith, or hope, then get yourself along to Curborough. We have a yearly event where members only of the RTR and MEV cars are invited along to drive their own vehicles around the track. Possibly the best motivation for anyone building or thinking to build a vehicle. If you ask nicely, people will take you for a spin too. Remember to bring a full face crash hat, long sleeved shirt and long pants.
If your vehicle can start and stop safely, you too can test your vehicle to find its benefits and flaws on a safe track.
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Post by mattyboy on Dec 1, 2013 9:37:56 GMT
I am slightly fortunate in that I worked for 2 years as a sheet steel fabricator.I learn't many skills including basic mig welding. I am even more fortunate in that when my old boss retired I got some of his tools, including a small fly press with tools, a metal whole punch that fits into a vice, a very nice vice and some angle grinders. Unfortunately his Mig was 3 phase so I didn't get this.
I am reasonably happy with my ability in fabricating brackets etc, that is if I can ever get my garage straight. I power washed walls and floors yesterday and discovered I need to lay a new concrete floor, the power washer just blew the concrete away around the edges as it was a bad mix and is too soft.
It has been a long time since I picked up a welding torch (15 years) I am sure it's like riding a bike though. I am pretty good at soldering too. This is largely due to skills learn't from building RC helicopters and quad copters, some of those wires are so fine. As far as tools go I probably only need a welder, maybe a pillar drill,and some sort of metal bender.
Can't wait.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 16:48:18 GMT
Well if you saw my garage you would wonder how on earth two cars were built in it :-) I have a Tig welder DC, Pillar Drill, Tool bench, a number of useful one off made tools for various unique jobs on the trike, im sure you will be fine. I am no expert welder, I learnt from a friend, I canny Mig to save my life, I love Tig Welding though.
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