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Post by media116 on Oct 23, 2013 18:40:40 GMT
Hi All,
New to TR1ke ownership and just wondering what temperature your R1 engines run at under normal driving conditions? Took my newly-arrived machine for a short spin between the showers this afternoon (no high revving and nothing above 60mph) and, after just 8 miles of this, the dash was telling me 111°C...
Look forward to your thoughts.
Regards,
Chris
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Post by slugshot on Oct 23, 2013 21:12:48 GMT
Hi Chris
So you're on the road at last, regarding the temp...you don't need us to tell you that 111c is too high do you ? Hopefully it is nothing more than an air lock in the cooling system, it would be helpful if you posted some pic's of your tR1ke, not arty long shots but close ups showing the coolant setup.
Cheers Kevin
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Post by media116 on Oct 24, 2013 9:57:17 GMT
Hi Kevin,
Many thanks for your reply. I'm discussing with Paul at RTR regarding the best way of sorting the problem. I bought the TR1ke direct from them, so it's covered by their 12-month warranty. Like you, Paul's initial diagnosis was an air lock, but it's not clear why that should develop in a system that was installed and thoroughly tested at the factory, before the vehicle was delivered to me. FYI, the original builder chose to leave the radiator on the front of the engine, so RTR re-located it for me into the nosecone.
I'll keep you posted!
Regards,
Chris
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Post by paulh on Oct 24, 2013 11:19:18 GMT
Hi Chris. mine did get up to 121c on track in the middle of summer. now with a bigger rad it runs around 80-85fans come on at 106 and only stay on untill its back down to 103
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Post by edwinwl on Oct 24, 2013 19:06:45 GMT
My cooling temperature improved significant by replacing the standard mesh in front of the radiator by one with a more open structure.
I did this last summer.
Now my tR1ke temperatures are (around): City: 85 deg C Country roads: 75 deg C Really trashing: 95 deg C
My tR1ke has a carburetor R1 engine of 2000.
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Post by media116 on Oct 24, 2013 20:00:39 GMT
Thanks Paul and Edwin!
Paul at RTR tells me that 111°C is within the range of operational temperatures for a 2001 R1 engine, and that I should set the alarm on the dash for 113°C. These seem scarily high figures to me, but I don't have any experience of large bike engines. Looking on the internet, I have found some references to how hot the R1 engine runs, but nothing specific so far.
Regards,
Chris
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Post by edwinwl on Oct 24, 2013 20:24:38 GMT
This is from an earlier post. It's from the manual of the bike. Strictly, Paul at RTR is right. Personally I agree with you and prefer more cooling margin.
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Post by slugshot on Oct 24, 2013 20:58:18 GMT
Thanks Paul and Edwin! Paul at RTR tells me that 111°C is within the range of operational temperatures for a 2001 R1 engine, and that I should set the alarm on the dash for 113°C. These seem scarily high figures to me, but I don't have any experience of large bike engines. Looking on the internet, I have found some references to how hot the R1 engine runs, but nothing specific so far. Regards, Chris At what temp does the fan come on at, and when it does does the temp go down enough for the fan to stop. Or is the fan manually turned on with a switch. From the pic's of your tR1ke on the rtr site it looks like you have a non std dash and clocks, were is the temp sender fitted, is it on the rad. I think 111c is too hot if you were just taking it steady especially as its late october. What's it going to be like when you drive it harder next summer.
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Post by andy7b on Oct 24, 2013 21:22:31 GMT
Hi Chris I've been to work and back today ( about 25 miles each way) the highest I got to was 82deg and that was sat at traffic lights for a minute or so and it was around 73deg cruising round. The sensor is still in the rad so at the front but I'm think its fairly close to being correct, when I first ran it up it took a bit to bleed properly but once it was running properly the fan kicked in at 108 deg and dropped out again around 102 ish I think Andy
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Post by media116 on Oct 24, 2013 21:34:09 GMT
Thanks for the extra input guys...very useful indeed. At this early stage I don't know where the temperature sensor is located on my TR1ke, or at what temp it triggers the fan (which is automatic, not switched manually). Work is just hectic at the moment so, what with that and all the raid, I've only had one short run short drive so far.
I ditched the Acewell digidash because it was all over the place; impossible to see the revs and there were warning lights flashing right, left and centre. Opted for an Ace 6556 instead, with an analogue rev counter. Also got RTR to fit a gear position indicator, although that only goes up to '5'!
It's awkward that the expansion tank is tucked away inside the nosecone, and that the whole thing has to be removed to get at it...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2013 12:54:04 GMT
I normally get 76 solid on the motorway
Maybe up to 105 stood on a hot day
Probably 85-90 in expletive deleted slow traffic
If it fluctuates rapidly up and down, you mist likely have an air block
Sent from my ST21i using proboards
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Post by media116 on Oct 25, 2013 13:47:27 GMT
Well, despite the tolerances of the engine, it sounds as though mine is running way hotter than it needs to be.
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Post by slugshot on Oct 25, 2013 14:47:12 GMT
Thanks for the extra input guys...very useful indeed. At this early stage I don't know where the temperature sensor is located on my TR1ke, or at what temp it triggers the fan (which is automatic, not switched manually) Hi Chris Do you know at what temp the fan comes on at and what temp it turns off, its easiest to do this stationary so you can see it come on. If you can't show us a pic of your cooling system can you tell us what pipe goes were, or better still do a sketch. Cheers Kevin
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Post by media116 on Oct 25, 2013 15:17:02 GMT
Hi Kevin,
Not sure how to post pics on here, but if you want to email me at: chris@media116.com, then I'll take some photos tomorrow and email them to you.
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Post by slugshot on Oct 25, 2013 17:46:08 GMT
Ok you can send some pic's via emial but it'll be worth figuring out how to post pic's onto the forum for all to see. I use photobucket, maybe someone else more computer literate can explain how to do it.
If you look on page 4 of the tR1ke thread there's diagrams of my and Edwins cooling system, both systems work great with no overheating problems. It's more likely your setup is the same as Edwins, if so hopefully you don't have anything more than trapped air. On Edwins build thread he describes how he got all the air out.
Cheers Kevin
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