Dimensions and Specification

[JimmyZ]

Right guys, this might be a bit of a n00b question / post, but hey, we have to start somewhere right?

I've been trolling various sites over the last 2 years now looking for an appropriate long term project car. Honestly, Sonic7 is gonna be "it" (but knowing me it#ll be slightly heavier than some of yours... I like some luxury and conveniences (yes, I'mn gonna mount a CD player for a bit of high speed radio 2!!)

One basic set of information I am having difficulty in finding is the dimensions of the car itself.

aka Length, Width, Height.

Reason I need it, the project isn't just a car build. It's Build garage (workshop) to house this, my 20 year old Scirroco (rebuilt last year) and simple workshop affair (the usual stuff, fridge for beer, TV, etc... mebbe some tools )

Cheers in advance

[JimmyZ]

Oh, and turning circle... although I'd imagine that it'd be less than my Scirocco anyways

[Stiggy]

Hi Jimmy;
1.7 wide
3.3 long
1.1 high.
Not sure on the turning circle but I can tell you it was very small today in the snow. Brilliant fun, jab the gas, turn it 180!

[JimmyZ]

Thanks for that... added dimensions to the design proggy

[JimmyZ]

More questions, sorry



Noticed in this image of Outlanders build, no affixed roll bar. Is the roll bar on the S7 a bolt on item as I noticed on some of the other models (Rocket, etc) that it's welded?

Cheers!

[mastarforth]

hi, the sonic does have a bolt on roll bar

[JimmyZ]

AWESOME

And you're only in Consett... I'll be up your way on Saturday at the outlaws for the traditional Sacriston Boxing Day dinner

[mastarforth]

hi mate

give me a shout if you want to come up

number is 07983453475

dont know my movements for boxing day yet, but cant seeing me getting to far.

Andrew

[JimmyZ]

So have been doing MORE research, and I'm probably jumping ahead of myself in some form, however, for me, I like "instant" results when I get on to the Build itself (I was the same with my Scirocco refurb!)

So, beyond the kit itself, what do I need in terms of donor parts? I dragged this list from RTR's Rocket ebay page, is there more required for the S7?

• Engine & Transmission (1800 or 2000cc).
  
• Radiator & Fan (non aircon)
  
• Engine mounts
  
• Fuel pump & fuel gauge sender
  
• Number plate lights
  
• bolts & fixings(?)
  
• Header tank
  
• Brake fluid reservoir with flexi brake pipes.
  
• Diagnostic port.
  
• Steering column, switch gear, ignition lock & wheel
  
• ECU, complete with engine bay, wiring loom & sensors
  
• Rear calipers & discs (subject to Focus Model)
  
• Hand Brake & Gear Lever Cables
  
• Exhaust Manifold
  
• Clocks (Speedo, etc) and associated senders / wiring
  

Additional bits from "other" suppliers;

• Lighting
  
• Internals
  
• Seat Belts
  
• Wheels & Tyres - standard Focus bolt spacing I assume
  

I'm erring on buying a new complete Focus 1800 engine, hence why the questioning. If I can get the parts ready and prepared prior to getting the kit, then I'd be happy with effectively bolting everything together, soldering the new loom, effectively "putting the kit together" and would favour new as opposed to "second hand" although obviously getting the wiring loom new might be just easier to get one out of a wreck!

[dinosaurjuice]

i think its definately worth buying a donor. the list of bits needed off it really adds up to a massive cost if bought new. if you clean up the parts well, theyll assemble 'like new' anyway.

....plus its quite good fun seeing how much you can remove without using proper tools ;D

will

[JimmyZ]

Tis a fair point... I'm keeping my options open, but most definitely would be looking at the new engine route. I by no means profess to be a mechanic, and the thought of a manky engine going into shiney car, well, let's just say the £400 for a new Zetec is worth the lack of effort!

I've set my budget at £10k for garage and car, and the garage build is gonna be done by me anyway, so cost cutting can (and will) be achieved on that front allowing a bit of additional expenditure here n there.

[dinosaurjuice]

the focus donor has a fairly enclosed engine bay, its surprising how clean the engine stays compared to older cars.

with an engine change being an easy job my advice would be to build with the doner engine (and get legal) and then swap at a later date, if you feel the need to. £400 would go towards a garage extension for your next project

will

[JimmyZ]

Now THAT sounds like a plan.

I'll be honest, my "thing" has been older cars up to now, BMC mainly, and the 'Rocco, and yeah... dirty engines are commonplace.

Never even OWNED a Ford in 22 years of car ownership, let alone strip one down.

And I had a sneaky shake too... pretty sure it's a book

[patrickza]

Dec 24, 2009 19:03:08 GMT JimmyZ said:

let's just say the £400 for a new Zetec is worth the lack of effort!

Can you really get new engines for £400 in the UK? I've been planning an electric sonic, but the prices for the AC motor I'd like are blocking the whole project. If I could build with a new zetec at £400 I'd do my build with that convert to electric in the future when finances and technology catch up.

Engines and donor cars are hideously expensive in South Africa, so maybe I should check if stiggy wouldn't mind boxing up a new zetec along with the kit when it ships.

[pnn1976]

cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-FOCUS-1-8-ZETEC-ENGINE-MK1-1999-2005-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ310197302357QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4839333455

link to a £400 zetec on ebay