Ian, Glad I won't be the only one. How are you going tunnel less? Are you mounting your radiator out back, or route tubes to the sides? You must be going Klicktronic. Do you have any pictures of your progress, ideas I might steal?? Thanks, Derrick
Derrick, I don't know if you've looked at Andy7b's thread he was the first to go tunnel less, he still uses the old fashioned gear stick were the tunnel would be and it still looks great. I modified mine to have only the cables,hoses and wires going along were the tunnel would be to the front all in a 2in tube. I had to abandon the idea of having the rad at the rear as it wouldn't stay cool at low speed, so I now have the 2 main coolant hoses running along the centre below the 2in tube. I also blanked off the 3 smaller hose fittings to the rad including the water cooled oil cooler hose.
The water tubes run at pretty much water temp so high 80-90 deg C but I wouldn't think they need any insulation. Tunnel less is a good way to keep things simple, and like Slugshot says you can blank off the 3 smaller pipes (2 bleeds and one for the heat exchanger on the oil side) so all your left with are the 2 main water feed and return pipes. You can T the heat exchanger into the water feed pipe.
A bit hard to say really, i'll not say what I think until its a bit more complete. It might look better than stuck way back up top as the other attempts iv'e seen. Personally I don't see the point in having a great big wing way above the CofG...I would fit it to that little golf cart instead
Kevin, look closer the golf cart already has one. Just kidding, I had seen others put the wing way out back and in my humble oppinion it looked lonely out there on its own. I was thinking of setting my tail lights up on the brackets for better visability of the drivers behind me. The extra bracketry might come in handy for attaching other things. Remember the cars and trucks here in the US are big and the rednecks take the truck thing to a new level, I should be able to drive right under some of them. There is a guy in my neiborhood that has a truck my wifes car could fit under never mind mine. I also have the canard wings for the front which are probably just as usless, but the car seems so light any down force must be better than none. I think its more the look, I like it equaly with or without the extra plastic for now its mounted with double sided tape just to get the feel for it. Trust me if the spoiler or wings start whistling at speed they are going in the trash. I picked up a bunch of hoses. Hopefully I can get this thing running soon. Spoiler was side thing while waiting on parts. Derrick
Mawdo81, I'm not sure if the spoiler has any practicle use. I think it's more for looks, just like the canard wings. I'm sure they create some down force, but I'm not taking the car to a wind tunnel just to get the #'s. The only time I figure you would have enough speed to make the wings work your already at speed, and when you need them for sticktion you've slowed down making them usless. Like I said, I'm using them for light mounts and I like the look as long as they are quiet. I thought the same thing about a wing over the tire, but if you think it looks silly where I have it try it strapped to brackets out there. I figured at the widest point and it will still force the wheel down. I may need a stronger spring or progressive. derrick
Val, Did you change your spring? If so what did you go with? Thanks for the advice about the brakes. I meant to sound more thankful at the time, but when I read my own writing it sounded short. Any help you can give is always welcome. I may try to start the beast this weekend I'll make no promises. I have no idea how long this motor has been sitting. I pulled the plugs and dropped in some mystery oil to sit overnight. If this Frankenstein starts it will be a testiment to Japanees engineering. The motor was a backup for a turbo bike While the turbo motor was at a machine shop. I'm hoping to use it in the same capacity till my supercharged motor gets rebuilt. It is now running FZ1 fuel injection, ecu, cooling system, charging system and clutch, it all installed into the right places. I'll be welding up the exhaust this weekend because the FZ1 and the R1 have different oil pans and the pipe doesn't clear.
Hi Derrick, I think spring choice also depends on which swing arm you have. the length changed on each model of R1. My 2007 is around 5inches longer than the early ones, and I am running an 800lb car spring on the r1 rear shock. With the standard spring the chassis was touching the floor when I got in it
Paul, Thanks, which car did you get the spring from? Was it available in the US? I never thought of using a car spring. All the bike spring people want so much for their products. They know we are a captive audience, till someone like you breaks out of the box and finds an alternative. Honestly I have both 04-06 and a 07-08 swingarm I think I'll use the 04-06 because I have all the pieces for that one. My idea of using the FZ1 didn't work out as well as I thought it would. The swing arm was 50mm to big at the mounting point. If it had been like 10mm I would have gone at it with a grinder, but 50mm. I welcome any input you have. I have scouered your build for tips, but sometimes it's still hard to get the full picture. Thanks, Derrick