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Post by freshlikesushi on Jul 3, 2012 17:29:03 GMT
they are still only single adjustable.
adjustable dampering, and dampers set up for our weight are two seaparate things
If you can get hte BC with a 2" locger shock body, maybe 6/5 spring, and dampers set up for the weight, it will be your best bet. they are also adjustable compression/rebound in one.
they also have a NEW independant compression and rebound coilover out for about 2kUSD that i will be swapping to possibly. waiting on some RnD results from Jeff (drifts the green mx5 in formula d)
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Post by adam1001 on Jul 4, 2012 22:42:54 GMT
So I bought some BC racing shocks today. Well actually I bought a car which had them on it :-) Plan is to strip the goodies and sell it on quickly before the MOT runs out. First impressions: on a good surface they're awesome but on a bumpy road it gets a bit jittery, not helped by the low chin spoiler which catches when it's too bumpy. Ride height is terrifying. I took a speed bump a little quickly (one where there's a bump either side of the road) and managed to ground one of the sills. I need to check ride height and softness but now I realise what freshlikesushi means about needing to be higher.  Blatantly flaunting the signpost   |
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Post by freshlikesushi on Jul 5, 2012 9:01:41 GMT
This was my ride height on the miata  Miata front.jpg by Flsimages, on Flickr  miatafrontside.jpg by Flsimages, on Flickr flyin miata frame rails were LOWER than the sideskirts. about an inch or less at points of ground clearance Flip side, this is the exocet, with custom rear tophats (basicall a flat piece of steel with the mount holes drilled in it and bolted up to raise it a 1/2" from the stock tophat on teh BC) Adjusted ALL THE WAY UP on all sides, with minimal preload.  Exocet by Flsimages, on Flickr  Exocet by Flsimages, on Flickr i would still like another inch to correct some geometry the exocet shock towers ARE NOT in the same position as the stock shock towers and i lost about 15mm of ride height from that as well by my math |
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Post by shardy on Jul 5, 2012 15:37:28 GMT
I've been in conversation with Phil at P5 for a little bit about trying to get some of his Sportdrive shocks configured for the Exocet...
I'm mid-build at the minute and he needs a set of corner weights or at least a total weight and F/R distribution. Has anyone who has completed done/can do this?
We have a friendly grain store who will be able to do it for us when done, but that looks some way of yet at my rate of progress!
Stuart
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Post by adam1001 on Jul 6, 2012 0:25:54 GMT
Fresh - love the look of both cars! But I agree about ride height. Corner weights would be very useful.
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Post by exonev on Jul 12, 2012 10:10:17 GMT
Hi All,
Just to throw another angle into this discussion , what are peoples thoughts on the GAZ pro golds as used on the race series if used on a road version??, would they make a road car unbearable on the road or would you perhaps have two settings worked out depending on where you were using the car i.e. i fully intend to do several track days in my car but i also intend to use it on the road as much as possible ( or should i say as much as the delightful british weather will allow!! - poxy rain!). As the shocks are fully adjustable (i think) the settings could be changed for the relevant usage couldn't they??.
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Post by freshlikesushi on Jul 12, 2012 11:11:13 GMT
your unbearable is someone elese normal
Im sure most would drive my car on an even slightly bumpy road and hate life, but it is mild for me.
Also, just becuase they are used on the race series doesnt mean they are the best option. Cost, ease of replacement are both concerns im sure
until i find a shock dyno (which i cant) i cannot really comment on them.
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Post by shardy on Jul 12, 2012 12:51:32 GMT
Yes I agree with you adjustable is better than stock and people have different tastes, but obviously these things are designed for the MX5 dynamics and the exocet is a pretty different proposition... I understand that the main problem is getting the correct amount of bump damping, I believe that most high spring rates are matched with naff all levels of damping in bump, but you also lose rebound travel as the lower weight will compress the same rate springs less.
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Post by freshlikesushi on Jul 12, 2012 13:47:40 GMT
it is more htan just "bump"
low speed
high speed compression damping
and rebound damping (among other things such as valve type, strut layout (inverted vs regular monotube) all make up the handling of the shock.
you are not really on the right track. you have it kinda right in a simple way, but there is ALOT more too it.
Granted, if you are just building it to drive to and from the store. who cares. use ebay stuff
but this thread, i would hope, are for those of us that are serious about performance, and handling.
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Post by Toed64 on Aug 2, 2012 9:20:35 GMT
I ended up refurbing the standard shocks and fitting some rokkor lowering spring to them with a 40mm drop. Cheep option at only £30 and a tub of paint. Does the job nicely. T I know that this is an older thread, but just a word of warning: The new Rokkor springs fitted to my Exocet by the original owner, using the shocks from the MX5 are too low at the rear - I have only about 1 inch of suspension movement before the top wishbone hits the chassis rail (and only about 2 inches of ground clearance). I've seen a couple of comments about this issue from other owners and the CKC car failed IVA with the same problem. I spoke to Stuart. He commented that he had supplied and used Rokkor springs with original dampers without issue, so the spring seat heights on my dampers may be lower than standard shocks and I don't know what they are as the previous owner cleaned and painted them. Julie's car is fitted with Rokkor springs, I understand. Stuart suggested that springs that give about 30mm drop are about ideal for normal road use. His recommendation is that ideally, the wishbones should be parallel with the ground. Stuart also made another suggestion for those on a tight budget: fit a pair of MX5 front springs to standard MX5 rear shocks - in practise, he has found this quite good. The roads around my home in a Bedfordshire village are seriously pot-holed and so poorly maintained, that I'm thinking I may opt for MX5 Bilsteins and springs offering something closer to standard ride height. Does anyone know if the Exocet floor pans are lower than the original MX5's? |
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Post by tomaff on Aug 2, 2012 14:40:41 GMT
I have these (rokkor) fitted to my exocet now, with the body bolted down. Sits fine with about 4.5/5" of clearance at the rear and front, and wish bones parallel. Which is low, but passable on normal roads. Plan is in 6 months or so after running the car is to go for gold pro all round but initial budget is dictating my build rather than my wants.
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Post by adam1001 on Aug 3, 2012 14:45:38 GMT
I've now sold £660 worth of goodies off the red MX-5 I bought for the BC Racing shocks. All in I've spend £1,000 on it (purchase, petrol, replacement lights and wheels), so if I can shift the car for anything over £340 I'll be in profit (plus the shocks for free). Seems a good way to do it :-)
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Post by freshlikesushi on Aug 15, 2012 16:20:33 GMT
Bcs are a great great choice
Make sure you got lower spring rates though
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